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Transforming Struggle into Strength in the Black Trans Community

February 05, 2024 Shane Ivan Nash, Blossom Brown, Sabel Samone-loreca
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Transforming Struggle into Strength in the Black Trans Community
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As we peel back the layers of society's most pressing issues, our conversation with  Sabel Samone-loreca offers a sobering look at the impact of HIV in the trans community. 

We tackle the tough questions: Why does this demographic bear a disproportionate burden, and how can we champion a sex-positive lifestyle that dismantles the stigmas clinging to the disease? 

Our discourse ventures into the political arena of 2024, dissecting the state of trans rights and the government's questionable allocation of funds. We dream up practical solutions, like transforming abandoned warehouses into shelters, to combat the homelessness that plagues our streets, all while walking the tightrope of race, politics, and health.


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Speaker 1:

is so important about the race of HIV, because one in four black trans women are affected with HIV and we need to hear that we can live normal, healthy, sex positive lives. You know what I mean. I'm like sex is good, sex is free, like consenting sex, of course, Of course.

Speaker 2:

But like you know what I'm saying, I don't want to bite a misspoke.

Speaker 1:

Thanks for that, boundaries are sexy. Yes, exactly, and so it's just really beautiful. You know we're in a political year, we're in 2024, where a lot is at stake, especially when it comes to trans rights, where you are in society as a black trans woman, how are you seeing things politically play out, or what would you like to see play out in this time, as a black trans woman who has saw so much already?

Speaker 2:

That was a lot. It's a lot. That was a lot. I felt it. I just heard the.

Speaker 1:

Shane is like you're this professional, you know, I know you.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot we can see in that?

Speaker 1:

Listen. Look at that. Hold on. Sorry, I got my buttons. I messed it around. We got too much gadgets in here.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's a lot, but I mean in the sense of just life itself as a trans person, a black trans woman, and seeing the future proceed and what's going on. I think we need to talk more.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I think, somewhere between COVID and trans issues and Trumponomics and I like that word the ending of an era where we had a black president that was doing so much. I think racism is playing a big base of our presidency, even though we have a leprechaun and we have an elder in office. You know, when we have somebody old as God in office trying to stand up and Girl, you get those Twitter fingers just slamming on the keyboard. What did she say I?

Speaker 1:

don't understand that. You know this, man. I'm sorry, let me get up, bruh.

Speaker 2:

I mean this man can barely stand to the podium, and when he's standing at the podium, half the time you don't know whether he's sleeping or whether he's asleep, and it's just. I mean, we send millions of dollars over to another country when you got homeless people living on the streets and you got empty warehouses where it's like OK, right now we live in LA and we have I don't know how many empty warehouses in the art district, but you got to. You know you're talking about oh, we got the bill departments. You got warehouses you can work from the inside out to build where you can support some of these homeless folks on the street. Matter of fact, don't worry about contractors or construction workers. Grab the homeless folks off the street that got trade skills that haven't been able to put them to use because they're homeless and can't get a job. You know, yeah, have them go into these buildings and say, ok, you do the work, we help. You do the work with supply products and everything else. Build it, you own it, we build this, not coverstermine your rent. You know, at least these people have a place now. That's actually genius. But you're not going to say, no, we need to build an apartment, so now we got this buy area. We got to buy a lot. We got to get products, zone it, zone it and everything else to be able to support a building for homeless folks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what the use is that when you got 13 buildings that are empty? Yeah, you know, I just don't get it. You know, when we have, when our country is supposed to be one of the most wealthiest Allegedly, allegedly when they say we wealthy as we are allegedly, and we blow money on everybody else but our own allegedly, it makes us look really bad. Yeah, you know, I mean we want to sit and talk about other countries and their product, of how they work with their communities. But as a homeless person, I can go to Amsterdam and I might live my days on the street during the daytime, but when nightfall, they protect their people. They put them in shelter and in housing. They put them in their empty hotels and give them a room for the night. Yeah, their health care is paid for. I don't have to fight to get my health care. You know, here we have to fight and pay out a package. I got the pay in order to keep from dying.

Speaker 1:

And it's tied to a job usually too, right?

Speaker 2:

So if you don't work then you don't get really good healthcare because they're getting that all out of your check anyway. They don't tell you that when mama tell you to go get your first job, she don't tell you you got income taxes coming out of that sucker that they're gonna send to another country to fight for some oil that we're not gonna get. They don't tell you we gonna blow up somebody else's house and that money paid for it. You'll get an eighth of it, but the rest of it is going to take care of somebody else instead of going into SSI when you get 65 to be able to take care of you. Mm, you know we're talking about funds we don't have medically and for our own people, but we're sending taking care of everybody else. Where's the smarts in that? You know, but back it up, Because that was kinda heavy. You back it up.

Speaker 2:

We're getting heavy, we're getting everywhere we go, but that's what we talk about again, when we talk about those political parts of society that we're missing out on because of the stuff that they don't want you to see, you know they're not talking about, how we're not talking about HIV and AIDS anymore. You know PrEP might be the big subject, but people are still getting infected every day, right, you know? So that's stuff we don't talk about and that's being covered by racism and targetnessism and Trumpism and Ooh, targetnessism and all the racism that's going around. I mean, honestly, I'm just gonna say, as a black trans woman not even as a black trans woman, as a black human being in America when I watched April I believe that was April 6th when I saw all those, and I want y'all to hear me when I say it, because I'm not gonna Wait.

Speaker 1:

January 6th, January 6th, January 6th Don't get the date wrong, because they'll be like it was.

Speaker 2:

January okay. You got it wrong, but hey, it didn't make a difference.

Speaker 2:

April is 420, okay, but that's when I need to smoke a blood. But I'm gonna say, you know, when I watch Sitting my Rump man, watch all those people you know take over the White House sort of speak, you know, I'm gonna honestly say that there had been a bunch of black folks who had all been shot. That's just serious. And you have a race that could have been shot. I mean, think about. Okay, now I'm gonna put it to you clearly, you know, if you wanna think about it, this is January, right, yeah. What month are we celebrating this year? Martin Luther King this month, right, okay. Now I want you to take it back even further, when we had the Martin Luther King March on Washington. Think about the reports and think about some of the research they did in order to be able to stop that march from happening.

Speaker 1:

They sent German Shepherd dogs.

Speaker 2:

They literally fought to stop that march from happening on Washington and hoses. Yeah, we still fought through that, but look at what they had. And that was then when we knew we were at risk. Today, when we thought we might be able to fight through some stuff. As you know, the young people today don't give a damn. They'll fight first.

Speaker 1:

I can't see young people today, during slavery.

Speaker 2:

It's just ain't gonna work. A lot of us have been dead.

Speaker 1:

All that we would have stopped, that, we would have not made it. You want me to do what? No, we don't. We don't it. We don't it Cause whoo, we don't it.

Importance of Race and Political Issues
Martin Luther King & Civil Rights