Unlocking Your Inner Journey to Self-Discovery and Healing w/ Tawni Sofia Acosta

Emerging from the shadows of Shelbe's struggles, she unearthed a profound sense of purpose and confidence that she is eager to share with you.

On this Vision and Strategy Demo Call, Tawni Sofia Acosta and Shelbe Chang take you on an intimate exploration of self-discovery, where they examine the transformative power of self-forgiveness and how it can lead to a harmonious life, both internally and externally.

Shelbe's story, interwoven with personal tales of resilience and her mother's late-life awakenings, serves as the backdrop for a candid discussion on healing. We delve into revolutionary methods championed by thought leaders like Dr. Joe Dispenza and Dolores Cannon, shedding light on the extraordinary possibilities beyond conventional healing practices.

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Transcript

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 0:00

For helping people, helping impact and influencing. You've wanted that since you started transitioning.

Shelbe Chang: 0:08

Around ten years ago. So I kind of feel that way. By accident I was able to influence others in a good way, and I was kind of overwhelming, at the same time surprising.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 0:22

In the past. Sometimes the emotions take you to a place that actually might drag down all the work that you've done.

Shelbe Chang: 0:28

That's why it makes me myself believe what I'm going through right now. It's a purpose teaching something, or trying to show me something in order for me to do what I want to do. Next, after I overcame the obstacle, overcame the trauma, I have a new identity. That's the pattern, this is the Transparency Podcast Show.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 0:55

This is Tani and Shelby and we're going through the sales coaching process together. We're going through the purpose part of this. We got to one really deep place when we talked about your mom. She couldn't fully unlock herself until maybe the end of her life. Some of those things are dealing with treating a wife better, treating your wife better, forgiving your father and things similar to that.

Shelbe Chang: 1:38

You have that image when you describe what I was trying to do to others. That's kind of just mere back to me. That's about her life for the last past 30 years. Her life was kind of like that.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 2:02

You want to help others that they can unlock themselves now and not have to wait for 30 days. Not only doing that for yourself. Whatever people are doing in their business, real estate or whatever you want to help coach them for that important thing.

Shelbe Chang: 2:34

This is my own experience because of who we are. Back then we have a different avatar or self-identification identity. Back then I was not. No confidence, no social life. I don't have anything that I feel I'm proud of myself. Also, my family feel that way towards me. That kind of just made me not doing so well. I feel I was a loser. Then somehow I become this way. I kind of align my inner self and outer self. I started to see the potential, I started to have courage, I started to have the purpose. It's completely different once a person kind of aligns to their inner self. I know this part is possible for everybody, no matter who they are, where they came from. This is just our inner self About my mom. That's more like external influence. External can be resolved too. Beautiful.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 4:11

When you have that alignment of inner self and outer self, you have a purpose and that purpose is aligned.

Shelbe Chang: 4:20

I realized after I transitioned.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 4:29

I'll ask this just another time. I said all these really good things. What else when you think about all these things we just mentioned. What else yeah?

Shelbe Chang: 4:43

This one is more what the part I mentioned to you about. I was looking for alternative way of healing for my mom because she had cancer. This is just my, should I say, dream. One of my purposes is to really hoping can find a way to heal people without medication, without radiation, without chemo, without those pharmacy that we know about today. I'm sure there's different ways. This is more different than business self inner paradigm shift. That part I'm not very clear at this time, but I do kind of start stepping to more meditation. Sounds, vibration, frequency can change somebody's thinking and the way they can affect the body. What I heard from Joe Spenso, dr Lors Ken in. They say if you can make yourself sick, you can make yourself heal. They both say that I just have to find a way. Beautiful.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 6:18

Okay, so I'm just going to I'm just going to review this back because the words are very powerful sites to helping others, healing, feeling abundant freedom, valuing oneself. Help people who have a victim mentality, have acceptance and have purpose to show, coach and teach to unlock your own potential and their potential to spiritual freedom. And and then when we talked about this, it reminded you of your mom and that image and then all you know you kind of this is more simple, but you can help people unlock themselves so they don't have to wait till it's, you know, kind of posted that they can really unlock all of that.

Shelbe Chang: 7:06

Right.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 7:08

You can do that and you can help other people do that yourself, and with that you have purpose and alignment and as well, even though it's not clear you to do, looking for alternative methods and our alternative ways for healing.

Shelbe Chang: 7:28

Yeah.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 7:29

Yes, so healing ceilings a lot in this he is a lot. Yes, very good, all right Is there. Can I ask you one more? What else?

Shelbe Chang: 7:41

Yeah Well, I think the last one will be legacy. We talked about before.

Shelbe Chang: 7:49

Yeah, because, yeah, I still have, I still wants to have one day do that family foundation and, hopefully under my mouth nickname to help people and you know, above what we just mentioned and but, but it's more like you know people in need, like maybe hunger, this is unfortunate Children. You know LGBTQ community people, people whose homeless, yeah, yeah, and that, yeah, using my mom's nickname and I'm doing it on behalf of our family, so that hopefully that will be the legacy, okay.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 8:50

So it's like the legacy. Can I ask you though I may not know or understand may I ask you? You're saying your mom's nickname. Yeah, what is that? Yeah, e-may, e-may, yeah, okay, yeah.

Shelbe Chang: 9:09

That's very interesting. Yeah, the second word is beautiful, pretty, yeah, and the first one is like, what do you say? Like classy, kind? So it describes someone who's very classy, kindness, beauty, yeah.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 9:33

I see kind beautiful, yeah, and with that, your legacy, your legacy.

Shelbe Chang: 9:42

Yeah, okay, of me and her and my family. Yeah.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 9:48

Okay, so we're gonna. So we're still kind of talking about purpose, but it's like what I want to say is like what has worked in the past for you, what's?

Shelbe Chang: 9:58

worked in the past for me.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 10:00

Yeah.

Shelbe Chang: 10:02

I do see a pattern and I'm glad that there's pattern. There's trade, you know, left it like a footprint, trace pattern for me to see now, because I feel every, every time there's some trauma, some something happened in my life dramatically, even time, my emotional painful, and then it will really bring me to the next discovery or the next level.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 10:36

Okay, so okay, I'm sorry, go ahead please.

Shelbe Chang: 10:42

So it kind of as of now. That that's why it makes me myself believe what I'm going through right now. It has, it's a purpose teaching something, or try to show me something in order for me to do what I want to do next. And that's also the foundation of me not giving up, because I always tell people I've done it before, I can do it again, or you know, I've been here before. I can, you know, break through this? Yeah, so I, throughout my 40 some years.

Shelbe Chang: 11:20

So I dares Tony Robbins says it's called seasons, you know, winter, winter, spring, summer, fall. So now I think I mentioned to you where I'm in this winter season. Yeah, so I have about three to four seasons throughout my 40 year life, I think every 10 years. There's something going on for me every time. So it's sometimes good, sometimes bad, including the transition is part of the, you know, transfer, transformation, and and every time I come up with a new, you know, every time, after I overcame the obstacle, overcame the trauma, I have a new identity. That's the pattern I saw and it works, and it works for me, and every time, as long as I keep going, then it will, it will show me the results.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 12:21

Okay, okay. So, and, like you said, what's worked is you see a powder on her footprint and you've been there before, yeah, and you know that's going to bring you to the next level. So you don't have to give up, and you've been there before, and also it's like the seasons of your life, though at the current moment it's a little bit of a winter, but you all this gives you that knowing. So that's what's worked for you.

Shelbe Chang: 12:45

Yes, Because when I describe what I'm trying to see, what I can do for others, is kind of put myself in that vehicle right now in a way right. So, yeah, I believe I've been telling my friend, like experience is what? Truly not understanding? So if you don't, your body is not experienced or your emotion is not experienced, you will never know. Even though you study from the book, you still don't know what that, how will that feel or how you overcome. So I believe what I'm going through right now is for me to understand, to how to help others in their, in their, in their life or in their scenario.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 13:32

Okay, and just you know, on the other side of that, what, what hasn't worked in the past.

Shelbe Chang: 13:40

What hasn't worked in the past.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 13:46

Yeah.

Shelbe Chang: 13:52

I, I do know, like again back to the pattern, I do know the things that kind of you know, like I mentioned, when I have emotion or something, I do stupid things. That part is the one that really dragged me down. And you know, you a person, if they build something, it takes, I say, five years for five years. You know, like a college student, four years to graduate. But if if I do something like that stupid stuff, then it is, it takes very fast to drag you back to zero. So so I think that's the part I'm self aware you know is a good thing and see the pattern. So I think if I have to go through whatever coming up next, then I will know that not to do that because it will take me another four years to get back up.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 14:53

Okay, but but you know in the past, sometimes the motions take you to a place that actually might drag down all the work that you've done, or partial, or part of it. Okay, is that a good way to say it? Yes, okay, all right. So what I'm curious about so this is another easy, fun question it's like how willing are you to take the inspired action to get the clarity on the business and to do these things that you mentioned earlier about legacy and family and all that stuff? How clearly? So how willing are you to take a willing, fired action related to all of that?

Shelbe Chang: 15:35

I'm willing to take action. Yes, okay, yeah, this, because I already came to at this point came to understand everything is about warliness. If you don't feel a warliness, no matter how attractive, how, how put it in your face kind of thing, you still won't do it or accept it. So this warliness is is the one that makes things move. Okay.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 16:06

So you, so you're willing, you're willing to take action. You're willing to take inspired action.

Shelbe Chang: 16:12

Yes, Because I have a why and the why is attached to a very strong emotion. And again I see the pattern through my past Every time I attach something with a reason, with a strong emotion, trauma or some sort of break you know breakdown and usually that it's a very, very strong, invisible force drive.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 16:47

Okay, when you have success in making your legacy, when you have success, how will you know you'll have success in making your legacy, helping other people and having clarity in your business?

Shelbe Chang: 17:03

Well, I will feel that way when I see another person is is a reflecting on what I want them to hopefully become Right, that that that makes me feel happy, okay, yeah, and that made me feel I contribute to, to some money.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 17:31

Okay, yeah, so when you see other people successful, you will feel happiness and contentment.

Shelbe Chang: 17:40

Yeah, Like, if I can, like all the things I was mentioned that I'm trying to do and throughout this process, it's this individual or a group of people that really take the step of what I'm showing in the future and then they really have the results. Then then, like, that's the success that I, I will feel Does that make sense?

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 18:11

Okay, yeah, it is funny, the more and more we have a clear image on that, what that success looks like, yeah, and what we'll clear it gets us for, to us to achieve it. So it's it's an important question to ask of ourselves.

Shelbe Chang: 18:26

Yeah, and then the legacy portion is you know, I believe if that first first part is is is achieved, then or or I don't. I don't want to put any orders, sorry, scratch that. You know it can, can happen at the same time, or you know, or the or right.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 18:50

Yeah, yeah.

Shelbe Chang: 18:52

So so, if, if, if a person who needs, if group of people who needs help and I would, if I feel abundant, I will be able to and then, in that sense, and you know, see, see them receiving the help, that will make me feel that I'm doing my purpose. Yeah.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 19:18

And when you're able to give them that help and they're able to act on that help, what does? What does that look like for them specifically?

Shelbe Chang: 19:35

They will look for them, they will be relieved, right, and it depends on individual, because some people might feel that's enough at that time, at that level. Some might want to go. Okay, now they might want to. Also because it's kind of like a ripple effect if I, if we have somebody and that people might get influenced to help whoever they, they met or they they encounter down the line too, like that, and I think that's great greatest results that a person can achieve, right, okay, okay, just like every mentor has a mentor, absolutely yeah, and same same, well, logical thinking.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 20:33

Do you want to be? Do you want to mentor people?

Shelbe Chang: 20:38

If I can, when I can, not when I can Right. But you do want to mentor people, you do want to mentor people If I can, when I can. When I can, yeah, okay, all right.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 20:59

But I'll just ask you one last question about that what is mentorship to you?

Shelbe Chang: 21:39

Well, mentorship is not. It's different from what we go to school. You know, you got to listen to me. You got to follow one, two, three what I said. No, that's more ego thing. I think mentor is like have you heard of this? Like when you share something with others, or even coaching, teaching, explaining to someone, somebody or a group of people then at the same time, you're learning as well. Okay, so my mentorship to me, in my perspective, is I share what I know, I share what I learn, I share my passion with someone and then, during that process, I learn more about myself, I learn more about them, and that energy feeding each other back and forth. That's the truth of mentorship for me. It's not about, it's not the way I said earlier, not like a school way. You know what I mean, okay.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 22:50

Yeah, All right, very good. So just asking the question, especially when we're thinking of the legacy and some of the other things that you mentioned you wanted to do. How long have you wanted that?

Shelbe Chang: 23:07

Not too long, okay. Well, let me put it this way the helping people umbrella has been feeling this way since I transitioned, because I see what I can. I did see what I can do at the time. That's why I came up out this idea is helping others, impact others, influence others umbrella. But if we go very specific about like healings or coaching, mentoring people, that part is not too long. That's probably just six months after my mom's passing.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 23:52

Okay, so if I can, for helping people, helping impact and influencing me. You've wanted that since you started transitioning. You is that right? Yeah, yeah, so maybe how long would that be?

Shelbe Chang: 24:12

I would say about 10 years. 10 years, okay, yeah.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 24:18

And just recently about is it coding or mentorship, or what is the one just recently with your mother?

Shelbe Chang: 24:29

The healing, the healing part, the coaching teaching is spiritual. Spirituality is six months or so recently.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 24:44

So as far as influencing, impacting helping people over over 10 years or 10 years or more, that's about 10 years. Yeah, and then just recently, the helping, coaching, teaching spiritual aspect just recently, in the past six months.

Shelbe Chang: 25:01

Yeah.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 25:02

Okay, okay, good, but 10 years, okay, that's a while.

Shelbe Chang: 25:08

Well, that well, let me maybe explain, because 10 year, around 10 years ago, I, like I mentioned, I do see, oh, I think it's kind of by sometimes I'm not, when I'm not planning to do certain things and something just at the result come out. I use the word by accident. So I kind of feel that way, by accident, and I was able to influence others in a good way and I was surprised, I was kind of overwhelming at the same time surprising. Yeah, you got the. I think I mentioned this to you before and that's the time I start to see I can do something like that.

Shelbe Chang: 25:54

But it's it's very, very surface, you know. That's why I say six months ago, I kind of went more deeper, because when I, 10 years ago, all I know is okay, maybe I just show my face and do certain things, like the events that we had, all those events that's for me to is that, or make a movie. That's the part that I was, you know, helping, impacting, inspiring others. That's very surface, right, if you know what I mean. And right now, six months, right now, this past current six months, I feel it's more deep, you know, deeper, helping, not just the servers, yeah, okay.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 26:42

But you've always wanted to help people for a long time, to influence and impact them, and now you want to be able to do that at a deeper level.

Shelbe Chang: 26:52

Yeah, because I this my grandma said to me when I was really young, imprint in my head. She said if I ever see anybody needs help, I should help them. And that, just that's just in my mind. And, like I mentioned when my past life, I have no way or even ever think about that phrase. You see, sure, and I also had a dream that I remember so so long time already. I don't know what was it. If we have time, do we have time I can share? Go ahead, okay. This stream is very trippy. I would say, sure, okay, it was. I was dreaming about my. Was it middle school, first grade to sixth grade? What school? Middle, middle, middle school?

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 27:50

Elementary.

Shelbe Chang: 27:52

Yeah, elementary school I was in my country. I dream about myself in that school and it's after school, we're walking out from the school and I was the person I was. I always get bullied. I was a little boy. And then, and then come out of school and then went on the bus and people bully me left and right, okay. And then this girl, little girl, came to me and kind of rescued me from the bus you know, in the bus from being bullied, and then strange things happened and then somehow the bus is going to explode, blow up, Okay, and then she somehow helped everybody, including myself, a little boy, to escape from that explosion and she, she sacrificed herself.

Shelbe Chang: 28:44

That's my dream, okay, so this dream is in my childhood. I forgot how, how old I have this dream, but I always remember. So, when I grow up, you know something as a guy, as a boy, as a guy I've been just one is searching for this girl that will help me. Okay, so every girlfriend I came across is hmm, is this the one? This is the person? And then, around 12, 13 years ago, I realized I'm not that boy, I'm that girl. Right, so it's so, I don't know, weird.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 29:27

So you're the if I understand you right you in that dream, really, and you can say that today you were that girl.

Shelbe Chang: 29:37

Shelby is that girl.

Shelbe Chang: 29:38

So I, yeah, I thought I was that boy because this dream was when I think I was young, less than 10, I had this dream.

Shelbe Chang: 29:47

So I remember clearly I can't even see an image right now and so I thought I, like I mentioned, I I grow up, I thought I was this, this boy, because I in real life I've been really been bullied as a you know, growing up and come to America and a lot of people bully me never since I was young as a boy. So I identify myself as that boy in the dream and I'm looking for this, this tough girls, this this superwoman image to to, to, to, to to be with and pay her back. You know, kind of like pay her back. You know in a sense and I've never really found it, even though I'm with few girls, and I came to realization 12, 13 years ago that I am actually like I mentioned. That's when I came about to know I have the influence of helping others. So I kind of have that a little bit awakening or aha moment that oh, maybe I'm the girl, not the guy, the boy, yeah, no, thank you for sharing your dreams, so that's kind of.

Shelbe Chang: 31:05

So that's why, with my my, what my grandma said in this dream, I kind of just live my life under those two, two, what do you call it Blossom? No, truth, truth, yeah.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 31:22

So it's kind of interesting like you had this dream of this girl that rescues the people from that bus and that bus it's going to be.

Shelbe Chang: 31:33

you know it will secure me from bullying as well.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 31:38

And bullying. Yeah, yeah, and now you had that. Because of that you had this realization, and also because your grandmother told you about helping people. So now you realized, with all of that, how you can help people. Yes, so that's been around for quite a while, hasn't it?

Shelbe Chang: 32:00

Yes, 40 years at least.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 32:05

All right, but it's interesting. You know you're talking about the dream that you had. You're talking about what your grandmother left you with and with all of this you realized you know how you can help and impact people.

Shelbe Chang: 32:24

And with my own experience and my mom's a you know it's a reflection of I know me understanding where the health can be right, because without knowing the trauma or the experience and I won't know what's there to help myself.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 32:50

Right, but if I may say, this desire to truly help others almost even, in your own words, rescue that's been with you for quite some time.

Shelbe Chang: 33:06

Yeah, rescue in my dream.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 33:10

Yeah, okay, okay, so and good, just, you know, kind of recapping that question, it's like you know, to help and impact and influence people. You know, definitely you've had that, wanted that for 10 years and then just recently you've seen these deeper levels of what you can do and really, with coaching and coaching and change and impact, and but it also reminded you of these things from your past which are grandmother left to you with you and and even some dreams that you had as a, as a young kid, and some realizations from those. Okay, all right. So now we're going to go into two, two parts that are a little more. You know, they kind of have to explore science, the difficult parts. So is that okay? Are we going to that right now? Okay, so. So on the first part, what is keeping you from having that legacy?

Shelbe Chang: 34:20

I don't really think about what's gonna keep me, I just know it's, it's should I say time, I mean time, like I know it's not gonna be overnight thing, right, so I'm, but I don't see it as a keeping me away. I just know that as long as I keep, as long as I keep going, it will be there, it will, I will get there, it just yeah. So I don't really how does something to at this moment to feel something that keep, keep me away from that?

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 35:00

Yeah, okay, so what time is an issue?

Shelbe Chang: 35:09

No, I just well, because of this legacy. I believe it's over time, you know, over time accumulate of a person's doing or achieving right In order to have a story right. Legacy is story technically right. So a story, one page won't tell much, but if it's a book, then there's a story. So that's why, that's how I see.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 35:44

Sure, and you know, just I'm just going through. Some of the things that you've named is like has anything kept you from being able to help others unlock their potential?

Shelbe Chang: 36:02

Well, it's a very interesting question because my current situation is slowing me down. That's for sure, right? Because if I want to say, go somewhere or enroll in some programs and my current situation is not going to stop me, but I know it's slowing me down I can feel that way, but then, if I don't have this situation, I won't be able to experience myself to show others later. So it's like the balance that I need to be balanced. Does that make sense?

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 36:45

Yeah, Okay, and what in the past has gotten the way of having? You know, having that specifically, maybe having the alignment or having that ability to help unlock that in other people.

Shelbe Chang: 37:06

Okay. So I think I just said a lot. The last question you said one will be you stopping me and blocking me. I think I kind of came out one. It's the same thing. It slows me down, it didn't really stop me. So the blocking and stop is sometimes I let's say I hang out with the wrong person, wrong people, and it has and it made myself develop. I mean, I'm not blaming them, it's my choice. So at the same time I develop a bad habit and keep me, you know, not going forward. That's one thing that I can think of. That really stopped me or blocked me. So but over time, you know, again I see the pattern because I attached that with my emotions. So once my emotion overcame, then I don't need that anymore or that person, or yeah. So I kind of yeah.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 38:06

Okay, and what do you think you need to change in order to have the clarity in your business and to have a deal to achieve that legacy? What do you think you need to change to have that?

Shelbe Chang: 38:22

I think change, I feel that the good, what should I say? Okay, let's put it this way In a normal circumstance, a person who's going through a tough financial or what I've been through in the yesterday, usually a person will be just sleeping, lying on the bed and depressed, and not even expose themselves with opportunities or a class or a course or this kind of call right, and if the person is like that, then they will have to change. But for me, because of what I've been through before, so I know in order for me to change, I have to participate, like things like this, otherwise I'll be stuck in that or whatever. So, yeah, okay, so I'm not sure if I'm, I just make sense to you.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 39:25

Okay, so like we're in one place, we want to be in another place. Yeah, to do that, we have to change.

Shelbe Chang: 39:33

Right, it's just like I heard this from somewhere that our A-hours go to the work for other people or any type of work. It's a survival right To survive. But anything additional to that A-hour is to change, to change to thrive. Okay yeah.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 39:57

So changing to thrive.

Shelbe Chang: 40:00

Yeah, changing, okay.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 40:09

And you know, and sometimes some of these questions, they are not easy questions, but they're made to make us think and go a little deeper.

Shelbe Chang: 40:17

Yes.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 40:18

I love it, and you're going to hear my dog snoring, so I apologize.

Shelbe Chang: 40:23

I didn't hear that, oh, okay.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 40:24

All right, good, so what you do? So if I understand you're right, let me know if I don't You're saying that in order to change, to have these things you want, you have to continue to be involved in programs and things that lead to your improvement, just like what we're talking about today.

Shelbe Chang: 40:53

Yeah, so you have to improve self-improvement, learning new skills. Okay, invest in yourself. Okay, that's why I'm Investing in yourself.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 41:01

All right, and if and then the other side of not investing in yourself. You might. You know you're using examples. Somebody just on the bed, depressed.

Shelbe Chang: 41:18

Yeah, because that's why I put myself as an example. If normally a person what I've been through right now you know, financial, a lot of credit card people calling me every single hour, hour like that, or what I've been through yesterday with family, normal, you know, our people, like what I just described, usually not going to be going on the conference or going to the webinar, you know, because I know what I, because of what I experienced before, I know, in order for me to get out of this hole, I need to do this in order to get out of this hole, okay, and people who that's why, maybe later, you know later the part of me helping others, I can share this part in the program that you know you've been through everything right now but you just have to do opposite to have opposite results, right?

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 42:26

Okay, yeah, okay. Sometimes it's not easy to do the opposite.

Shelbe Chang: 42:28

I know it's not, so that's why I know the Does need to change.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 42:35

Yeah, okay. So yeah, our mind has to change. Yes, okay, and everything that's up here.

Shelbe Chang: 42:43

Yes, everything starts from here.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 42:46

Right, yeah, okay. So I mean, I have to go into a group of questions that is kind of on the more challenging side, okay, so, and again, I just want to make sure that's okay with you that I ask these questions. Yes, okay, thank you All right, okay, what would be the impact of not getting this legacy?

Shelbe Chang: 43:22

I will be sad, I will be I don't know. I just gonna feel very bad.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 43:33

Yeah, okay, and okay yeah, like you'd be very sad, you'd feel bad. How else would that impact you personally?

Shelbe Chang: 43:49

I'll probably end up what the person's been describing. The person, oh okay, the person doesn't want to do anything anymore, but I will probably feel I'm giving up or something sort of Okay.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 44:05

Okay, thank you, but this is really important. How would that impact your family?

Shelbe Chang: 44:15

Impact my family If I don't. I was talking about you. If we don't, particularly, I think they will probably think that they were right about me. I think Well, I never really shared that with them that I want to have this legacy or legacy for our family or our mom, but in a way that to me, I will what I just described I'll be feeling depressed, I don't want to do anything, I'll be back to be a loser and to their eye, they will think see, I knew that this person is never gonna be successful or be somebody. So that's how I predict. That's how they're gonna think and see and feel.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 45:13

All right, and how would that? Okay Again, not having that legacy? How would that impact you professionally?

Shelbe Chang: 45:21

Professionally. I think it's a ripple effect. If I I'm a very sensitive person personally, I think the personal life or person, my own personal life is not managed well, then my personal life will affect the same way. That's all has been in the past. Every time there's something going on personally not well, then it will drag my professional side down.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 46:03

Okay, all right, and that just, and the impact of not getting a legacy. How would that impact the world?

Shelbe Chang: 46:21

I'm just imagine, okay, because I won't know for sure, right, Because I imagine the world. Well, let's play this way. Imagine the people. Certain people I'm sure needs, let's say, Tony to show up, Not all of them, but certain group of people. So if Tony doesn't show up, then the certain group of people will not also show up. Does that make sense? So that's why I imagine, not probably the whole world, but I'm sure we somehow connect and we all connect, but particularly certain people, certain group of people. We tend to have more connection than others, and if I don't show up then they won't show up. That makes sense.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 47:20

So the people that you're connected to, if you don't show up, they're not going to show up either.

Shelbe Chang: 47:28

Yeah, if you answer your question, it's like cause and effect.

Shelbe Chang: 47:35

So if I don't present this good cause, then they won't have a good effect and there will be less people to get unlocked before they came to realize a lot of things, like the last few near death moments that I described earlier, because they also this probably come from one of the motivation speakers. She said another part a lot of people who's near death they looking back and they will regret they will have a lot of I should have. I should have do this, I should have done that, I should have right. So I don't want to be that person. And then I know a lot of people don't want to be that, feel that way too, because in the religion, buddha saying, it's a karma, if you feel that way, you have to come back and we do it again. Oh, so I input yeah, so back to that. If I don't have my legacy, if I don't create this, this, this shall be showing up. Then less people are going to be conscious awake, I guess. Okay, no awake, all right, is that how you conscious awake?

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 49:29

It's very good. Yeah, all right, thank you. So then we can get to the other side of this. So what would be the positive impact in your life of getting this legacy?

Shelbe Chang: 49:54

Impact. Again, it's, it's I'm envisioned because I won't know. I think it will be. Just like you know, we, we have music, we have movies, we have books that came from hundreds years ago or a long time ago, or it like Egyptian, 5000 years ago, right? So if there's no Egyptian, no movie, no book from the past, then then the future, or today, present, will look very different, right In a way. So if we so, okay, I'm sorry. Your question is asking if there's no legacy.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 50:43

No, no, no, no, no, we're okay. Let's breathe for a sec. Okay, yes, you're answering the previous question. Okay, can you ask me again? So now I'm asking you the other side, which is the positive side. The positive side is what will be the impact of you getting and attaining this legacy?

Shelbe Chang: 51:09

So what I said earlier is it's it's it's actually answering. I just I just lost my, my thought. So without those media, then then then the world or the reality would be shaping the different. So the positive will be, let's say, if I, my group of people that I'm impacting, let's say it's trans community, then there will be a lot more trans people that can benefit from this legacy, this, this impact, this effect, cost effect, and I'm sure the the world, I saying 10, 15 years down the line will be very different from today's.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 52:05

Okay, yes, and but let so, then we're going to go down to thank you. It's like kind of a world view that the world in 10 or 15 years the world would be a better place than it is right now. That would be the impact of that legacy. And so so how will achieving that legacy impact you personally?

Shelbe Chang: 52:31

I just had a thought, because, because all the things that I describe when I do, or legacy, or because of my mom or grandma, or the dream, it's all because of love. And so, if so, what all the things that we describe is is past, is technically passing down the love to others. So even like I mentioned the media, the movie I made, a movie called LGBT love stories. So so I believe you know love can love unite people, love change people, love will automatic have a positive impact in the world. So, even though we put this term, that term, but the bottom line is love that we are spraying out, right, you and I, or whatever we do in our life, we're spraying love. I think that's the legacy of everything.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 53:41

So and the impact of doing this? How will that impact your family?

Shelbe Chang: 53:50

I think what how my family.

Shelbe Chang: 53:52

Yeah, I think my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my family too, because I, me and my sister are very different and she is more very academic type of person. I'm a very street person. That sounds weird, but so because of her back, her study, her background, education, she's very, very black and white. There's no gray area. It's hard for her to accept gray area. It's hard for her to accept someone who's have both eating and getting together. You see what I mean, and if I can have this legacy that's showing the love, then we'll change people's perspectives, I believe. Yeah, okay.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 54:46

And for your changing that perspective. For your family will that will that look like.

Shelbe Chang: 54:52

I will also transfer to a chain chain so she won't be so black and white, and Bobby, in a way, not to show us open minded, I guess. Okay, yeah, open minded.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 55:13

And for anybody else in your family. How would that?

Shelbe Chang: 55:18

Well, my family, it's only my dad and my mom, my dad and my sister now. So, and you know my dad, he's very traditional and same. I think my dad and my sister are very similar, even though they my dad doesn't have that same educational background, but she has that mindset, you know. Go to school and be somebody and and follow the, the, the society right, follow the society. So, if I can, if I have this legacy, and change the perspective of my sister, it will automatically change him at the same time, because they are more closer than me, close to him, okay.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 56:15

And I know, but no, these are like. This is the. This is the positive side of the question. So how will how will getting that legacy impact you professionally?

Shelbe Chang: 56:31

I think the professionally will be impacting not just me. It's if, if, if my group I'm impacting is, let's say, trans community, then everyone will not be in a victim you know victim mentality. They will see the, they will see the alternative different. They don't have to follow the society. If they can help themselves and and do stuff for themselves, they can still be successful for themselves. Yeah, and that way everybody will be, you know, financially stable or in a way right.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 57:21

Okay. So, and freedom to don't feel trapped in spiritual Okay so be successful, stable, financially stable and in a broader sense, for you. Okay, so that's how. That's how it will impact you professionally.

Shelbe Chang: 57:45

Yes, um, just the reason why it doesn't sound like me, but because what I mentioned earlier, if I shared my experience, skill, knowledge with others, I am learning at the same time. So if I and then I said if, if I see others able to get the result, it makes me feel happy, abundant, achieve success. So that's why I said, for me, perhaps professionally is is when another person or a group of people are able to feel, receive that then that's my positive professional results.

Tawni Sofia Acosta: 58:33

As a professional result. Okay, all right. So, and then just take this one level further is how will achieving this or getting this legacy, how will that impact the world?

Shelbe Chang: 58:51

Um thing, it will be, will be, will be more, less, less hate, more love, more support, accept them, happiness, so then people can be more healthy. I know, I don't know. I just feel I'm not sure it's because the age, my age, to the point that every day I hear somebody pass and somebody got sick and this and that, so, so much. So I'm not sure it was because the world was, because I'm at that age that these things you know, appears more than than when I was younger. Yeah, so, so hopefully that can be changed.