Navigating Integrity and Breakdown in Transmasculine Entrepreneurship

Shane Ivan Nash and Blossom C Brown along with their guest, Leon Mostovoy's conversation extends beyond personal anecdotes, celebrating the strides and representation of trans men in business, while also addressing the tangible hurdles they face. 

When the bonds of business intertwine with personal values, the fallout can be as significant as the venture itself. 

Our latest clip. episode is an intimate reflection on the dissolution of a business partnership in the cannabis industry, a story that resonates with the challenges of maintaining integrity in the face of transphobia and deceit. 

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Transcript

Transmasculine Business Partnership and Fallout

Speaker 1 0:00

You are known to hang around a certain transmasculine individual or whatnot, and on a personal level, I think, because of my personal experience with him, I think he's despicable, I think he's disgusting, I think that he's very transphobic and I feel like Wait, girl, what's the question, though? I feel like, I feel like when are you talking?

Speaker 3 0:20

Oh, should we drop a name.

Speaker 2 0:22

I mean like I said, we're not sponsored by Red Bull yet, but we are being brought to you by Red Bull at the moment Because we are. We got wings to this, I think.

Speaker 1 0:30

Yeah, I think that this individual who's transmasculine I'm sure he's gonna watch this episode very clearly because I'm gonna make a reaction video with the thumbnail of them on it In my personal view, because of the lying and the sneaking that they've done or whatever, I don't think they're a great person and it is what it is, but you used to hang with that person or be associated with that person and I guess my question is what shifted for you to not be friends with this type of person or attract people like this particular trans man who's white, by the way into your life. What happened? What's the team? I was feeling it we ready? Okay, yes, I know, I got one.

Speaker 3 1:22

Okay, so here we go. So first of all, myself and this person being the same age, having transistors a long time ago, being from like similar you know, you guys are like brothers, at least that's why I perceived it.

Speaker 2 1:39

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:42

Looking alike, allegedly. You know, I like that.

Speaker 2 1:44

Sounding alike too. Personality is very different though we see that what Personality is very different.

Speaker 1 1:49

Yeah, you see, that Very different beautiful.

Speaker 2 1:52

That's why you read the book, you don't just look at the cover.

Speaker 3 1:54

Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 1:56

So you know that plays back into trans masculinity. Sorry, I'm just adding more of a delay because we have to have the dramatic. We have to because we know it's about to come and I'm giving you more time to think.

Speaker 3 2:05

No, I know just, it's pretty simple. So we got together with this concept being, like I said, I told you, I own a cannabis delivery service and I believe in the properties of cannabis, so this is individual.

Speaker 2 2:18

Support his business. All your cannabis should be purchased now by him. So that's how that works. Yeah, yeah yeah, and you get this in your last 30 days, exactly, exactly, and we'll get the links on it on the video for you later, so we'll have that.

Speaker 3 2:31

So, anyways, so we had this idea to start, because of this person's Without any more teacups. Because of this person's, we hadn't spoken for a long time.

Speaker 2 2:43

I do have my name on my teacup. I'm coming to prayer, yeah.

Speaker 3 2:48

There's a lot of crazy gossip from like the 90s about this person and even this person and me and my partner at the time and lots of fun stuff. So anyways, we didn't talk. Then we hooked up somehow on internet it was asking this question about a dog and I'm a dog lover. I am a dog daddy, you know.

Speaker 2 3:09

Yeah, I remember you would bring your dogs to the events and it was cutest. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 3:13

I mean, people asked me if I dopped. I said, you know, if that's my biological dog, yeah, that's your baby. That's yeah, that's my son. I did not adopt him. So, anyways, we get together and we have this idea to do a cannabis company, just focused. And this is the long time ago. This is like I mean for cannabis. This is 2017. Like no, it's not even. It's still Prop 215. This is like the golden, golden West baby when the taxes weren't that bad.

Speaker 2 3:41

Remember when the taxes weren't that bad.

Speaker 3 3:43

And they still put it in a baggie and it was like it didn't have to be all sealed and everything.

Speaker 2 3:47

They just stapled it and gave it to you.

Speaker 3 3:49

Yeah, it was just back back when we were.

Speaker 2 3:51

He's so detailed. Listen, I've been in the cannabis industry a long time too. I just don't talk about it too much, okay? No, I'm not.

Speaker 3 3:57

I believe in legal. In fact, I still am paying back corporate taxes for most days. Anyways, yes, I am very legal, I'm a Virgo, I'm very by the books, yes, so anyways, we start this company. We love Virgos the whole idea for our community at all. Then COVID hits and on I'm expanding with my delivery services separate. This is just my passion project, and so things are going along. And then I decided, like, okay, we could expand and you could be a partner on my delivery service. I already have a partner on paper. Like I said, we have SQRP LLC, all that bullshit, yeah, transman in business.

Speaker 3 4:43

look at that Right right right, you gotta do it right. Do it right, otherwise you're gonna be getting so much help.

Speaker 2 4:48

Listen, I'm just impressed that like again we never thought trans men would be here. I even have a podcast. Like we have like equipment, it's like what we have privileged. So sorry, I just I get excited when you tell me it's really important.

Speaker 3 4:59

Yeah, Anyways, he does not. My partner that I bear with, my delivery partner does not think it's a good idea, so I go over him.

Speaker 1 5:07

Oh really, you're pardoning, thinking it was a good idea to To include him and expand with him.

Speaker 3 5:12

Ooh, let me see. So anyways, I decided to. Anyways, and what this person of which we speak of?

Speaker 1 5:23

Allegedly, allegedly.

Speaker 3 5:26

Of who shall not be named. Ooh, not Voldemort? Yeah, so who shall not be named? So what happened was oh my God, you are not being good. I know, maybe we didn't realize that it's really hard, like my business was open 80 hours a week. Yeah, it's retail 11 hours a day.

Speaker 2 5:47

No, you go hard.

Speaker 3 5:47

It's a lot of fucking work.

Speaker 2 5:50

He's a hustler, I mean this is for real.

Speaker 1 5:52

This is taxes.

Speaker 3 5:53

This is reporting to the state of California monthly. This is vendor purchasing $5,000 to $10,000 a week. This is a business business. This is on the phone with all of the seniors who are like what, now, I don't know how to use a website. Do you want me to name off all 200 different types of weeds we have? Yes, wait, maybe it's just a lot of work. Yeah, this individual that we're speaking of did have the popularity and stuff, and that's how we always had it was that I was the guy behind the scene. I am, I'm the Virgo, I'm the business guy. There's the face of product.

Speaker 1 6:32

Yeah, business-wise it makes sense, it makes sense, so what?

Speaker 3 6:35

happened, though, was it was crashing and burning. It was not his money, it was all my money, wow.

Speaker 2 6:45

So you paid me for that DJ gig then.

Speaker 3 6:48

That was out of the box of our money. I mean, when I expanded, I expanded and put another $50,000 to expand the company, which was all my money. Wow, you didn't have money. Wow, daddy put in some money, his daddy put in some money. Wow, my daddy stopped speaking to me 15 years before he died. So I'm like you know you don't get it, bro. Like this is me, this is little tranny guy working my ass off of this money.

Speaker 2 7:15

Coming from the mud like a lily pet.

Speaker 3 7:17

Yeah, right now my parents just owned me.

Speaker 2 7:19

My parents stopped speaking to me when I was 18. Same, I came from Scientology dude, so we, I listen, I know, come on now. My parents left me nothing. All of my everything came from these fingers and somehow I got it. I don't know how Everything I had building the business every goddamn penny I had. That's why I respect you so much.

Speaker 3 7:34

I get myself no handouts, no rich girlfriends, no rich daddies, nope, nothing, none of that shit.

Speaker 2 7:41

That's why I wanted you on the show, dude, so I got upset that they weren't taking equal responsibility.

Speaker 3 7:48

In fact, no responsibility, damn.

Speaker 1 7:50

Shocking. Where's the thing? Oh, I was looking for the other one. Dun, dun dun.

Speaker 2 8:00

We're still learning the buttons, y'all Don't judge us. Where is it? Which one is it? We always do this every episode Life's not fair.

Speaker 3 8:08

Then you just put your weight on it. That's not fair.

Speaker 2 8:12

We're still learning the buttons. Is this one? No, there's always.

Speaker 3 8:16

There you go.

Speaker 2 8:17

So it's the middle one. We got to remember that it's the middle one. We're learning.

Speaker 1 8:21

Y'all is the middle one, it's the middle button, it's a learn together. It's the one take show, it's only yeah.

Speaker 2 8:26

It's all a problem. That's why it's called Transparency Podcast, because we do not do editing at all.

Speaker 3 8:31

This is live. All about the journey, not getting there. We might never get there. The journey, sorry.

Speaker 2 8:38

I play with the buttons. Tell us how the story ends. Where did we go from there?

Speaker 3 8:42

Yes, we had a big falling out over that and parted ways and I did not realize that, even if you and again, virgo, virgo, everything by the books I set up bank accounts, more LLCs. I didn't realize, since I'm the signer on everything, because an LLC and the reason why you do that is you're not liable and it does not come back on me personally. Yeah, however, I am the signer on everything. Again, I am the business person behind this scene. Who's the face? You're the CEO. I still owe. Some of the credit cards are gone. After this time I had to pay everything back.

Speaker 2 9:27

So make sure to purchase all your cannabis from this TransMaps business owner, so we can get that.

Speaker 3 9:31

Yeah, I have to sell it, yes, just send him Venmo money.

Speaker 2 9:33

You know we'll find the link somewhere. We'll send it out.

Speaker 3 9:35

We'll send it out, yes, so he just sort of walked off and left me with all the debt, and so we don't talk.

Speaker 1 9:43

We're okay, we're okay, we're okay. Everybody, that's okay. I was gonna say where can we support you?

Speaker 3 9:49

Yes, Okay, yeah, I have, oh, here.

Speaker 2 9:57

S-Buds delivery. Yes, yes, s-buds delivery. Yes, can you actually spell it for us like the dot com, exactly so we can get it? Okay, is it?

Best Budz

Speaker 3 10:02

B-E-S. Yeah, so it's B-E-S-T, and then buds, b-u-d-z buds, b-u-d-z buds, and but the, where you can order right off the menu and everything, and if you're sending your name and stuff, I'll even send you a cute little Mention the podcast as well. Yeah, the podcast and then I'll put a little code on it and that's B-B deliverynet. Okay, it can't have bus buds, which it was, because buds, apparently the CDC and the powers that be that do like a CDC spectrum, really.

Speaker 3 10:45

Yeah, they think that it's a cannabis company and so they won't let me advertise. Wow, so I have to do all this. Yeah, wrap around, it's not.

Speaker 2 10:56

Look at that, there we go, we got it. We got it on screen for you right there. So that's all of your stuff, yeah.

Speaker 3 11:01

Look at all that stuff. Yeah, and that's just my specials.

Speaker 2 11:05

Yeah.

Speaker 1 11:06

Woo Shay, we need to wrap up on that.

Speaker 2 11:09

Listen, I invited the plug. Now the community is aware of the plug. The plug has some good stuff. Here's the menu. So we're gonna get Sativa. I'm gonna need an eighth of the blueberry and also the the kush there that looks really good. And I need two vape pens and then blossom. You needed edibles, correct? Yes, yeah. So we're gonna need that whole menu and also, folks, go ahead and actually head over to that website. Take a look at all of his work, because, again, something that I wanna support, because I have this alleged attention and platform I want folks to actually see and become the plug for community. And you're actually buying from a trans masculine individual like what?

Speaker 2 11:47

And it's legal. It's through a business license. It's everything. I know. A licensed trans man Like what the