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Empowering Voices in the Transgender Rights Movement

March 01, 2024 Shane Ivan Nash, Blossom C Brown, Karina Samala
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Empowering Voices in the Transgender Rights Movement
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Have you ever witnessed a moment that crystallized the need for change? 

Our latest clip episode is just that: a powerful journey through the highs and lows faced by the transgender community.   

Mother Karina joined us, revealing the courage it takes to stand up against familial and social tension while honoring a lost member of our community. Through this lens, we examine the essential work of community advocacy, highlighting the transformative impact of mentorship and the creation of supportive spaces that empower the next generation of transgender leaders.


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Speaker 1:

work together to improve this and to move forward. That's why I stay away from those drums and those people.

Speaker 2:

We don't go right head first for it mother. We've learned Well, because you have taken what you've taken and, I feel like, the next generation. The next step is to kind of really start creating that space.

Speaker 1:

That's very important also to also mentor and train the new generation, exactly Because they are our future.

Speaker 3:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

Our work is not gonna be finished with. That's why I try to mentor the young people like you. Well, no that's what I love about your approach. Young people are coming, okay, because we cannot be here. I cannot be here forever, that's right. We cannot be here forever. That's right. We had continue, and all these young ones are the one who's gonna be pushing forward to look into this and fighting against the end bickering. And it's not gonna solve the problem. It's gonna destroy us, it is yeah.

Speaker 3:

It is. Thank you for saying that. It's true, and I always think that things like white supremacy and access to certain resources that are not trans specific does play a part in that, and I just for me, when I see how you have really built up in this community, it bothers me that you're not respected the way that you should, and I think for me, coming into this community a lot later than both of you have been here, I've witnessed that. I've witnessed the racism, the anti-blackness, all of the other things or whatever, but to see someone of your empowerment not get your flowers and to be disrespected by people who have a platform, who is supposed to be a light for other trans people, it saddens me and I almost wanna cry, cause it's just kind of like we cannot be treating our trans elders like this, and me coming from Mississippi and me having a different upbringing or whatnot. I understand that completely, and so, mother, what message would you like to say to those who just may not know better?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like what I'm saying, that's what I always believe. Also for us to move forward is the three V's the vigilant, visible also, and vocal, ooh yeah, have a voice and also to vote. Vote for those political people who are for us, for our community, and that's the reason why they come to me sometimes and I endorse them. We endorse because we have to continue our work, because don't look about the bad things, we have to move forward. I've lost so much of my own children killing themselves, jumping off the freeway, leslie and also one of my trans girls in West Hollywood that moved domestic violence, killed, stabbed 26 times by the live-in boyfriend, that I've been called upon and I had to call the detectives. She moved from here, moved to Texas and then she got stabbed 26 times. It's really, really heartening. And then one of my girls jumped off the freeway because of this happening, because of parents non-accepting. I was invited. Her friends would call me mother and mother. You heard about Leslie, you heard about her being stabbed. You heard about her jumping off the freeway. Then I went there under viewing itself. We were at the viewing with all those people in there. Of course it was a closed casket because of jumping off her condition. But the thing about it is, at the viewing the priest, who is a Catholic, who is well, I'm not even Mexican. She did not want to do the sermon at the time. She didn't want to do the sermon because she's trans. They got all their female pictures out. Okay, she's one of my pageant girls. And when the priest stepped out, the cousin came on the microphone. Those who want to say something about our cousin Leslie, please come forward. I went on the microphone. They pushed me, come on. I went on the microphone right away. The first thing I said is I am Karina Samar. I'm a proud transgender woman. We love, unless this part of our community. We love and miss her dearly. That's all I said. The boyfriend went on the microphone. He charged the family. That's why this has happened. Look at this thing, look at how you hear. Because she borrowed the boyfriend's car, went off on the 105405 freeway at one o'clock in the afternoon and jumped off the freeway and killed herself. This is going on and you know what happened.

Speaker 1:

All of a sudden, when he was on the microphone saying this thing, a lady in front, dressed in black veil, stood up and said with a piece of paper, said you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. He is a boy. I have here his birth certificate. He is a boy, out of viewing when he's to read for himself. He is a boy. You know what they did? They got us all out. The establishment got in because we were fighting already. When we got out, the boyfriend came up to me and tried to apologize. I said no, no, no, you don't have to apologize. Thank you for standing up for our community. I said to him and saying those things. You know he was apologizing because all of a sudden, all the, you know, the, the it's gone. They were all sent out. We finished, okay, so we?

Speaker 2:

can't even get a respectful viewing, exactly.

Speaker 1:

So now, what happened? The, the, the friends called me the following day mother, mother, this is my day one to talk to you. I found out that the lady that stood up was an aunt, not even my mother. When I went to the mother I talked to her. We did a fundraiser to help for the burial and everything. They, the barricade, and then I talked to the mother and the mother, and the mother said to me it was an aunt. So I said I said to her next time. I said go to the archdiocese of Los Angeles. The priest there, who is white, not Latino. I said he is, you know, he is there for our community. She did Other at the funeral, at the, at the, at the game, at the, at the forest lawn, when we were.

Speaker 1:

I was very disappointed with our community. Though it was a daytime funeral, it was a lot of people from our community because it was all over the newspaper, it was a well attended, it was televised, even. I even thank the, the, the archdiocese, that that was the sermon, everything. But our community members showed up like going to a bar, just up, showing them behind, showing the, and it was so I was so disappointed. There's a common place to wear those things. You know, this is a funeral, this is a forest lawn and the television and everything else showing your booths and your be like dressing up like that, like you're going to a bar yeah, okay, at one o'clock in the afternoon, something wrong. But I just didn't even want to because I don't want the fight and the drama again with our community members. But I was very disappointed.

Speaker 1:

But this thing happened. This thing happened and that's how I learned also to deal with the law enforcement, because we give trainings. I even invited you to go training, if you want to, with both the sheriff's department and LAP. Yeah, I've done a few.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's mother. That's one thing that I can relate with you is because some of the things that I've done, where I've worked with the sheriffs themselves, it can look a certain way to community, as if I'm supporting them, but in reality I'm going in there practically telling them their assholes the whole time and then creating policy and narratives, and you inspired me to actually do that and the thing about it is I'm so glad that it's starting again.

Speaker 1:

I would like to invite you Also. It's starting again because I was very concerned, because it's good that we have a new chief of police now of the sheriff's department. It's very much there for us. Also, I already asked them. I would like to make sure that the policies are still there, still in effect, and I'd like to also visit our county jail. In the past I'd even gave me a badge and everything, because I usually go there In Los Angeles. We have our county jail where we have a segment K6G, k11 area that we put our two depending on their genitalias. They go to county jail. If they still have, even if they have all this, and if they still have the male organ, they go to the men's county jail and they have a facility there to put them all together to protect them from general population, and we have a questionnaire there.

Speaker 1:

I even work with those questionnaires that they're using to make sure that they're really there for that reason.

Speaker 2:

Because some. So you're a part of the process, of some of the intake of changing what that looks like and actually creating a space.

Speaker 2:

See, and again, this is another pillar of a huge thing you've done for community that I'm just not sure if many folks actually know some of the work you've done when it comes to creating influence within politics. I mean, I now have politicians asking me to endorse them because of the work that I've done through the mentorship, and it's a lot of different areas that you've been able to touch and I just I wanted to again just give you your flowers, mother. Thank you so much for the work that you have done.

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