Rhythms of Resilience: Boy Bowser on Trans Visibility and Triumph in Music

Boy Bowser's rhythmic beats and transmasculine voice have taken the TikTok world by storm, and we're thrilled to bring his story from the screen to your ears.

As we peel back the layers of this trailblazing artist's journey, you'll discover the grit and grace it takes to stand tall in the music industry as a trans creator. From the whimsical origins of his stage name to the heartfelt triumphs at the Trans Long Beach Pride, this episode is a symphony of humor, vulnerability, and unapologetic truth.

The conversation doesn't shy away from heartier matters, like the significance of representation for trans men of color and the cascade of positive changes spurred by increased visibility. With Boy Bowser's candid tales, including the laugh-out-loud genesis of "Yes, Ma'am" at a Taco Bell drive-through, this episode is a blend of inspiring dialogue and the kind of genuine connection that only music can forge. Tune in for an experience that dances across the spectrum of human emotion, lighting a path for trans artists in the spotlight.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

I heard that you are TikTok sensation.

Speaker 2: 0:03

Just there were a lot of doubts that people would enjoy the type of music that I make, which is I talk about being trans. I talk about I mean, it's not just about being trans Just the type of music that I would make as a trans person. The shake your ass dude come on Exactly.

Speaker 3: 0:17

Oh, we love that.

Speaker 2: 0:18

Thank you, the shit bitch, you ain't even the floor.

Speaker 3: 0:22

This is the Transparency Podcast Show. Welcome to the Transparency Podcast. My name is Shane Ivan Nash and this is Blossom C Brown. We've got an amazing special guest for you. It's a transmasculine musician who I actually found on TikTok, boy Bowser.

Speaker 1: 0:40

Ooh.

Speaker 3: 0:41

Welcome Boy Bowser to the show.

Speaker 1: 0:42

Welcome, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2: 0:45

I'm very happy to be here.

Speaker 3: 0:46

Thank you so much, first of all, history in the making. One of the first events that we worked together on was the Transpared Long Beach, and that had what four or five transmask musicians, djs, et cetera on the same stage.

Speaker 2: 1:03

Oh yeah, it was such an awesome experience Getting to be around so many other trans people trans creatives, I would say and I felt like there was a lot to learn from, since a lot of the trans creatives presence have been in the game and in the industry a lot longer than I have, so it was really cool to learn and get to like zorbed knowledge by being there and being backstage with Ryan and Ezra and being in that creative moment.

Speaker 3: 1:31

how did that feel for you? Because I've known you started your journey on TikTok, I believe what two years ago? Was it two, three?

Speaker 2: 1:38

Yes, yeah, I've been making music for much longer than that, but I didn't really have the confidence because I feel like I had never really seen anybody like me making music, and so I feel like it took a while for me to kind of take myself seriously as an artist, because I was kind of like I don't know. I just there were a lot of doubts that people would enjoy the type of music that I make, which is I talk about being trans. I talk about I mean, it's not just about being trans, but just the type of music that I would make as a trans person. I was worried that-.

Speaker 3: 2:14

To shake your ass too come on.

Speaker 1: 2:16

Exactly, we love to see it.

Speaker 3: 2:18

Yeah, no, I mean, that's one of the first things that I noticed about your tracks was I as a DJ, I'm like, oh, I can actually work with this in the club. And that was something that, as soon as you came across my TikTok feed and I was just like, ooh, is this guy? And then I saw you already producing on Spotify and I was like, oh my God, developing artists in the making right here, and I was so excited to learn more about you. And my first question, and of course, blossom's question, is well, where did the name Boy Bowser come from? Yeah, I've been so interested to kind of discover that. Is it by Nintendo?

Speaker 1: 2:54

What's up with that? I really wanna know.

Speaker 2: 2:56

I'm like disclaimer Nintendo, please don't sue me. I would really love Sponsor them, sponsor me, but don't sue me please. Boy Bowser actually came from because I'm a big video game nerd. I've always been a big video game nerd and it comes from a kind of silly place because before I actually used to release music under a different name, I used to release it under Sherman because I thought it would be a fun share or Beyonce moment, just Sherman, it's the single name, like Prince.

Speaker 2: 3:28

Yeah, but I realized that I was like no, I think I do kind of wanna go under like an artist's pseudonym. I think that would be good for my brand and the type of music I'm trying to create. But I definitely, when I came up with the name Boy Bowser, I wanted it to be something catchy and something like something that rolls off the tongue easy as well as like has that acronym that I could use for like design you know, yeah, and Boy Bowser came simply from the fact that I was like sitting playing a game of like Super Smash Brothers Brawl, because it was a game I grew up playing for years with my brother and that's the one.

Speaker 2: 4:07

I'm a big video game nerd. I grew up playing that with my brother like all the time, and Bowser was one of my favorite characters. To play Bowser and Kirby Toad was mine. Kirby is the shit.

Speaker 1: 4:18

I am a fanatic of Toad. I'm so loyal to Toad. He's ridiculous, have you?

Speaker 3: 4:21

seen the Ice Pice Toad remix yeah, no, I'm a fart, but it's Toad singing it.

Speaker 1: 4:28

Yes.

Speaker 3: 4:30

Well, we have to use it on TikTok now, because I got rid of all the sounds.

Speaker 2: 4:33

so oh yeah, that's true. That's right. I do a pretty good Toad impression. I actually am pretty good at doing impressions. I'm not going to do one on the show, though Maybe, maybe I'm thinking about it, you might hear Toad.

Speaker 3: 4:44

Now You've opened the door, I'm going to walk through the door on the ass.

Speaker 1: 4:47

That is such a fur-go thing to say right now.

Speaker 2: 4:50

I'm good at impressions, but I'm not going to do it on the show. You can't have it here. You can get it on episode two. Just invite me back on the show.

Speaker 3: 4:57

I'll do it. Listen, this is your second round here, because the first round, you know that was a little interesting with our sound situation.

Speaker 2: 5:04

Shot myself in the foot. I guess I got to do the Toad impression.

Speaker 3: 5:06

Uh-oh.

Speaker 2: 5:07

Uh-oh, what is it? The Thank you, the shit bitch, I'm waiting for the fart.

Speaker 3: 5:14

Okay, make sure to clip that for yourself and use that later as a TikTok sound. Yes, please.

Speaker 1: 5:18

Speaking of TikTok. I heard that you are TikTok sensation.

Speaker 2: 5:25

I wouldn't say that, but I do, I will give myself some credit. I have amassed a little bit of a following on TikTok. Nothing crazy, it's like 15,000 followers, which I'm personally.

Speaker 1: 5:38

That's a big deal. I'll take TikTok.

Speaker 3: 5:40

Yes, I, especially for trans-mask individuals who lack visibility.

Speaker 2: 5:44

Yes, I just I think it's definitely the biggest platform I've ever had on the internet, because I used to be a big Tumblr kid and like, but that was mostly for like fun fan art Hosting. Yeah, chip hosting, you know like, but at most I ever only had like maybe like 5,000 or 6,000 followers at like the hype you know. So TikTok is like the first platform I've ever had like a platform on, so it's been like really interesting to like navigate that, because I've never really had like a super huge online social media presence. It's all still really really new to me and like putting myself out there like that is still something that's really really new to me. So I've found that like I've Through it, like I've needed to take like breaks because, you know, social media Self-care.

Speaker 3: 6:33

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 6:33

That's right, so I feel like handling it in that way, taking like long breaks but making sure that I still like prioritize making content so that people one know that I'm alive, but so that people stay interested too. Yeah, so it's a weird balance, but I'm still figuring it out, but I think I'm doing okay.

Speaker 1: 6:52

I think TikTok is a really great platform for trans-maskling people. The content I see on there is really great. It's just really really amazing. And y'all got a bigger following than I do. I only have 4,553 followers on my Tarot astrology TikTok with it. On my political TikTok, which I just started, I have 61 followers, but the viewership is a little bit more on there, so they're really horrible at shadow banning. I think you know black content creators, some of the trans content creators, trans-maskling folks, and so you know to have that platform on TikTok is a really, really big deal and I think TikTok is that platform that really is taking over the world to be honest Big, big bitch, Ha ha ha ha ha.

Speaker 3: 7:34

I love the sound effects Shout out to Solomon in the building for that Woo. That's awesome, and you know. Just to add on to that, I feel like TikTok has been kind of a great equalizer, especially for trans-mask folks to kind of a massive following.

Speaker 3: 7:47

There's been so many trans-influencers, especially trans-masks, that have kind of popped up in the last couple of years, like there's Sasha that's on there, there's Ezra that's on there, yes, there's all these other folks that are kind of coming in and coming to that space. What does that mean for you as a trans man, to see that visibility come into space? Because I mean, I know you're a little bit younger than me, but I still feel like our representation isn't quite where it could be and I think that this is kind of heading in the right direction.

Speaker 2: 8:15

Yeah, I think so too. I definitely like it has been really really nice to see how much more like accessible it is now for trans people to put themselves out there. Like TikTok really is the great equalizer, because when I started making videos, I was kind of like I don't know if it's going to go anywhere. But I think TikTok is one of those platforms that if you just kind of really stay committed to trying to make content, something's going to stick and something's going to gain traction, which will, in turn, gain traction for everything else on your page. So I was just kind of like in this mindset of like, if I just keep throwing stuff at the wall, something's going to work, something's going to stick with somebody and for like a good while like it's funny, because it was the song that kind of propelled me to get more um, like just traction on the app. Yes, ma'am, is that what we're talking about? I'm actually talking about trans rights, oh, actually yeah, that one did hit too the radar.

Speaker 3: 9:16

Yeah, yeah, that was the first song I ever released Trending through like cis platforms and all of these different platforms. That is amazing In a good way is an imbalance.

Speaker 2: 9:25

Yeah, yeah, true. Whenever my content especially like the ones where I'm aggressively like trans rights, trans people I'm a trans person Sometimes it'll hit that wrong side of TikTok and then my comments will get kind of flooded with like we know all about comments, the live TikTok, from what I hear. Yeah, I'm like it's a pain in the ass to deal with, but I mean social media. What can you do? There's always kind of people we're gonna be.

Speaker 1: 9:52

Yeah, what made you want to get started in music in the first place?

Speaker 2: 10:26

Oh, I've always had a really big musical background, back from like when I was a child. My dad has always been like a big music guy. I grew up a lot with him like buying CDs and like showing me like different artists. He was really big on like giving me like a music education, like music has always been something, especially on my dad's side of the family, that's always been really important to us. So like, for example, my aunt is like a church singer in the Dominican Republic. So like I spent a lot of time around like gospel singing but also just a lot of jazz. My dad's a real big like smooth jazz fan. So like a lot of I grew up listening to a lot of like Count Basie and stuff like that.

Speaker 3: 11:11

And I can hear that actually in your sound, because the hip hop style that you kind of touch has that nuance of jazz to it.

Speaker 2: 11:18

Yeah, like it's just. I grew up listening to so much jazz and I don't look it, but I actually have a really big classical background. I have over.

Speaker 1: 11:29

Okay, Brock.

Speaker 2: 11:34

I have a really big I can't.

Speaker 1: 11:36

I cannot deal with this one right here. No, I can't.

Speaker 2: 11:41

I have a really big background in like wind instruments, particularly like brass instruments. Trombone is my instrument of choice, but I can play tuba, I can play baritone. I can play euphonium trumpet Not the euphonium, oh my God. It's not that much different from baritone, it's just bigger, more tubing a lot more air. I got the lung capacity.

Speaker 1: 12:04

Yeah, I was a little flute girl. And the little triangle and the tambourine.

Speaker 2: 12:10

We love a percussion queen.

Speaker 1: 12:13

The biggest one was a drum set, because every year my mom would give me a drum set because by the next year I would have ripped it and torn it apart. And then she lied and said Santa Claus bought me one again because I brought my other one. No, no, shade to lying or whatever, santa. Claus is real, but I always let me take it back Allegedly.

Speaker 2: 12:29

Allegedly Let me take it back. No, shade, it was Santa.

Speaker 1: 12:31

Yeah, but you know, I always love making beats, like in high school I was the beat girl and like they were freestyle to my beats or whatever. Oh, baby, I can make beats, honey, and it's just like Bruh and I think my brother got into, I think my brother had like a trumpet and then my youngest sister, I think, played an instrument or whatever. But yeah, music is so fruitful for the soul and it just tells so much. It tells the stories of our experience and I love that you are using your platform and that you're using your gifts to be able to do that. You know, in 10 years, where would you like to see yourself? I, rich.

Speaker 2: 13:18

Not necessarily rich, but definitely no, we're manifesting rich okay.

Speaker 3: 13:22

Listen. I learned that lesson as a young trans man, to kind of put myself in this position, where I didn't feel like finances were important, but rich is definitely something of goal, because money does create, like this cushion for you.

Speaker 2: 13:34

Yeah, a cushion to be able to comfortably do the things you wanted Exactly. Yeah, that's where I want to be Billions of dollars. I want to be at the point where well one. I would love to establish myself as one of the faces you think of when you think of, like trans artists. I really want to like push for that visibility, because I know that that was something that was really, really important to me.

Speaker 1: 13:59

Oh, is this you Okay? Oh yeah, that is me.

Speaker 2: 14:03

Yeah, and so, like I and I grew up, listening to hip hop has always like taken a big part of my life as well, like I grew up listening to it through all of my childhood because of my dad and because of my older brother. So it's a genre that's always been a big part of my life and something that I wanted to when I started making music, like something I really wanted to express. But at the same time, you know like I my forefront with all the music that I make is that I want to be visible for people so that the next generation of trans artists can push the envelope even further than I could. That's right.

Speaker 2: 14:44

And you know, but while I'm here, I'm going to try to push it as much as I can by being fun and sexy and silly, Because I feel like you know, a lot of my music has comedic elements to it. Yeah, and like.

Speaker 3: 14:57

I don't know. Yes, ma'am, when you're like, when you talk about your dick.

Speaker 1: 15:01

What.

Speaker 3: 15:04

That was a double wet, right right, I lost my shit.

Speaker 1: 15:07

The first time.

Speaker 3: 15:08

I heard that because, like, the truth in the matter is is like there's this toxic idea of how to be mask in or performing in that space or whatever that is, but you're breaking those barriers but kind of just stepping in and being like, yeah, I'm a trans man and still. And the other thing that I also found was amazing was the quality of the music video that you made it and it was also a T for T love story. I don't know if you know that.

Speaker 1: 15:33

Oh, we love T for T your music video.

Speaker 3: 15:36

How did that concept even come into fruition and what was the inspiration on that? And again, I love that you use a lot of community in that video.

Speaker 2: 15:44

Yeah, the entirety of the team who helped make that music video come to life. All queer people. Like everybody was queer A lot of trans people present in the room as well.

Speaker 3: 15:55

You were sexy, Like you were getting like whipped and chained and I was like what?

Speaker 1: 15:59

Ooh, I have to take it out. Yes, yes.

Speaker 2: 16:02

I'm like please go check out my music video. We put a lot of heart and soul into that thing. That music video was actually born from. If you guys are, are you guys familiar with the app Lex? Yes, so that was born off of me responding to an ad that my director made. That was like hey, I'm looking for queer artists to like maybe collaborate with on a potential music video. I want to build my portfolio and like if you send me your music, you know like I'll reach out to you.

Speaker 2: 16:31

So I was like at this point I was still pretty early in my career Like yes, ma'am had just come out. So I was like I don't know if you know, I don't know if my music is good enough to be able to pitch my music to a director for a music video, but I was kind of like you know what it's shot in the dark? Like you might as well. Like what do you have to lose this person just being like no. So I was kind of like let's do it. So I sent over like a. Really I spent like an hour trying to write this email of being like hello, my name is Boy Bowser, I'm a trans artist and I'd love to work with you. Here's some of my work.

Speaker 2: 17:05

I'd love to make a music video for this specific song and like my whole message is about, you know, trying to uplift like trans people and like as, like a person of color, you know, like trying to write from my own experiences and that type of thing, talk about it and like like the next day they responded and they were like dude, I checked out your music and I fucking love it.

Speaker 2: 17:29

Let's make a music video, yeah, and from there we just kind of started brainstorming. But I have to give all the credit for like a lot of the scenes and like the writing just to my director tree. They're amazing to work with and they were just so stellar throughout all of it. And like they kind of came up with the concept and like a lot of the designs and I helped with a lot of the set design. But like everything about like the ankles and like these different set designs and everything that was all just their creation. So I really have to give all of them the credit on that. I was just the dude who made the song and provided the face, you know.

Speaker 3: 18:09

No I mean, but you looked good in the music video, to be honest, and to see a trans man as the focus of a video in that way and to see as many folks working around you in tandem as you as kind of the front show in that space, that was so inspiring to see it.

Speaker 3: 18:23

Once I saw that I was like I got to get you into some of the things that I'm getting into. And that's why I reached out to you about Long Beach Bride, because I really wanted folks to find out more about your music and especially more in person. Because it felt like you were living a lot of the shows kind of through the Internet and I wanted to kind of bring that to the real world for you. And seeing now like music just keeps coming from you in so many different ways and I noticed you're even going into a different direction in your music. Now that's a little bit more emotional because you kind of got the sexy side taken care of. Where is that journey heading for you now with your music? Because I can see the shift.

Speaker 2: 18:58

Yeah, I actually kind of went through a little bit of a rough patch like over the past couple months and just kind of trying to like get back up on my feet. So I feel like a lot of the more emotional music I've been making has been bored from just like struggling because, like you know, when we're kind of in it and we're kind of just like struggling about like finances, life, relationships, like you don't feel that sexy. And not to say that the sexy music is not going to be here. I have plenty of sexy music in the mall. But I definitely, as an artist, one of the things that's been the most important to me is to always grow with my sound and to always try new things. Like I like to experiment a lot because I have such an appreciation for like different genres and like I like to dabble in a lot of different genres.

Speaker 2: 19:51

Like the song I just released is vastly different than the stuff I released you know, the year before, like the, my most recent release, hard to Stay Sober, that song is so much different from the stuff I released like yes, ma'am, everything, and like Heartbreaker from my album from last year, just because, like you know, I feel like vulnerability is something that I also do want to express in my music.

Speaker 2: 20:19

You know, like, as much as I do love making fun, sexy music, at the same time, like I am a trans person who goes through life struggles, struggles that aren't uniquely to being trans, but some that are.

Speaker 2: 20:32

And you know, like I feel like touching on those topics and touching on all the facets of you know, the struggles I go through as an artist is, you know, something that is really, really important to me and I definitely like, with a lot of the songs I've been working on recently, it's not just been pushing myself to be more vulnerable on tracks and be more emotional.

Speaker 2: 20:59

I think I've also just been trying to be more critical of myself in terms of word play, because my thing is that I like to grow as an artist and I always wanna try to improve on my sound and improve on the word play that I use or the musical devices that I'm using. So it's always really, really important to me to keep that in mind whenever I'm making music. And I think, with this more emotional shift in my music to reflect the past couple months, I think it's also just really born of wanting to grow and be like I'm not just an artist who makes sexy music. I'm gonna make sexy music still, but I also want you to know that there's tons of depth to the type of work that I wanna create.

Speaker 1: 21:50

Yeah, the diversity and showing that diversity is really, really important for our trans community, and so thank you for all you do and all of the things, or whatever. And you know, I gotta ask a quick astrology question. I heard you was a Virgo, all right, and you're talking to an astrologer here, so I'm gonna put you a little bit on the spot. Virgos are typically perfectionist people. They are very analytical.

Speaker 3: 22:17

Or do you feel red already? No, I could see it in your eyes. You're like uh-oh, I feel it, oh no, I love astrology.

Speaker 2: 22:27

Just, I love astrology so much I'm usually that person for the group of people that I hang out with Me too, me too, so like it's just fun being on the other end. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3: 22:38

She keeps telling me it's the age of the Aquarius and that's why everything is going the way that it is, and I was like, well, it's a perfect time for a podcast full of tea, right?

Speaker 1: 22:43

Yes, and Pluto is an Aquarius, which technically is conjuncting your moon, and so I was gonna ask what areas of your life do you tend to be more of a perfectionist, like it's gotta be right, it's gotta feel perfect. I may only get one shot. Like talk to us a little bit about that.

Speaker 2: 23:01

I think definitely like not a surprise here, definitely music. I think one of the things that my friends have constantly told me and have been mad at me about is that I will hold on to songs for like years, like trans rights. That song had been written for about three years before I released it. Wow, it was written, produced, like everything, like it was ready to go for three years. It's in the box, sitting there yeah, just sitting there, because I'm a super huge perfectionist and like how it goes with a lot of my singles is I will just kind of split second like last second, be like you know what? I'm just gonna release this, so it's out. It's out like it's not sitting in my files.

Speaker 2: 23:44

Yeah, because I have a real bad tendency to hold on to songs for so long, because I'm a perfectionist Like I've probably got at least like 30 fully done songs that are ready to go. That I'm just like.

Speaker 1: 23:58

I'm holding on to them because they're not ready yet they're so true You're not like I need to refine them. See, I be on it, I be on it, I be on my stuff, Listen, listen I love the question I do.

Speaker 3: 24:09

One thing that I also wanted to bring up is kind of back to the emotional side of your music. One thing that I'm seeing kind of in the growth and I think it's just a natural growth for trans mask folks is you tapping into that emotional side and actually displaying it in a way that a lot of cisgender men are kind of afraid to be in that emotional space, and I think that it's unique as trans, as a trans male artist, you actually get to kind of navigate that space, not quite easier but differently. How do you feel about that? And especially with like toxic masculinity kind of leading and bleeding into a lot of spaces, even within trans mask spaces, how do you feel about how you represent in that space Is I feel like you told the line in this really beautiful way where you're very mask energy but you also have this kind of tapped into the spiritual side of you as well. That's very empathetic. Yeah, I mean I could be reading you wrong and projecting onto you, but you let me know.

Speaker 1: 25:05

Well, Virgo's are very spiritually private people, so that's a really great question.

Speaker 2: 25:09

That is very true, but I definitely, I feel like I definitely try to approach things from I think I'm always thinking of approaching things from a respectful way Like even in my sexy songs I'm like there is like a fine line to toe between being misogynistic and being like playfully sexy, you know, and like I feel like yes, ma'am was like a perfect, like cursor of that. You're feeling that balance there. Yeah, and I think it had to do a lot with the difference of like, the difference of position that like I put myself in the music, because I feel like in a lot of like you know, male rap songs, like A lot of it is just like I fucked your bitch, I fuck you, you know, and like obviously I kind of have a little bit of that in my music, but I try to go about it in a way that's a little less.

Speaker 1: 26:03

That. You know, I had to get that one.

Speaker 3: 26:04

That's a little less. Well, no, I mean you even like what was the one line where it's like I'll bottom for you?

Speaker 2: 26:09

I was like oh yeah, that's the chorus baby. Yeah yeah, it's a yes. Ma'am, tell me what to do. No, I'm not a bottom, but I'll switch it up for you.

Speaker 3: 26:18

Yeah, that to me is probably one of the most masked the some blossom loves tea for tea love. So Exactly, I told you you already got a theme song. Make sure to download on Spotify.

Speaker 1: 26:32

That was a song for girls. I will watch this. I'm gonna download. I'm loving every minute of it, that song actually has a really funny story behind it.

Speaker 2: 26:42

I came up with the chorus for the song in a Taco Bell drive through. No, because I was driving with some of my old roommates. Like we were going through the Taco Bell driveway that was like nearby our old apartment and they were both drunk.

Speaker 3: 26:58

We had just come back from the club You're thinking of bottoming in Taco Bell. Hold on, that is a combination. I'm sorry, I just let me interrupt. That's a messy combination, but go on. I wasn't getting the Taco Bell. The Taco Bell was not for me, it was for the drunk people in the car. I was the designated driver.

Speaker 2: 27:14

We're just clarifying for folks.

Speaker 3: 27:16

But I had made. All the bottoms were like Taco Bell at the same time. Never, but go on, Shout out to the bottom.

Speaker 2: 27:23

Yeah, and I forget exactly. But I pulled up to like the drive through window. We were all like kind of being a little rowdy in the car and like I pulled up to the drive through window with my roommates and like I ordered for them and everything, and the lady in the drive through was like will that be all for your order? And like I don't. I think it was just because I was tired. I didn't think about the way that I said it, but the reaction of everyone afterwards was like what made me come up with the idea for the song? Because I said, yes, ma'am, I did. I think it's because I was tired. So I guess I said it in a way that was like yes, ma'am, and like there was like a like a beat of silence from everybody, including the person in the drive through, and then they were like you could pull forward.

Speaker 2: 28:08

And I was like okay, and I was kind of confused. And then my roommates were like why did you say it like that? And I was like what do you mean? I'm tired, I'm just trying to fucking order a Taco Bell. And they were like no. You were like yes, ma'am, and like you, you said it like a different way. And then from there I was kind of like maybe I should turn that into a song, yeah.

Speaker 1: 28:33

Are you in partnership with anyone?

Speaker 2: 28:35

I am Fun fact about that the person I'm dating now, my partner. They were actually in my music video and we started talking ETS behind the scenes.

Speaker 1: 28:47

Oh my gosh, I love it, I love it.

Speaker 2: 28:50

The thing is on set.

Speaker 1: 28:51

I've Well, we have to say that as a partner. Hello, we're excited to hear that.

Speaker 2: 28:58

Well on set. It's really important for me to be professional, like I always try to strive to be professional in those spaces. I don't want and just because it was like a sex filled music video, I was like I don't want to overstep or like step over any boundaries, so that wasn't even on my radar. But like we kept having little interactions where I would go over to one of my friends and I'd be like is she flirting with me? I don't know. I don't know if it's playful or if it's just you or if it's like actual flirting, and they were like you're being stupid, she's flirting with you.

Speaker 1: 29:35

And I was like okay.

Speaker 2: 29:37

Okay. And then he walked up and said yes, ma'am, oh no, I'm not that smooth. I heard you were the Rizzler actually that's the next conversation.

Speaker 2: 29:45

I'm here for all of it. I can be smooth. Sometimes, you know, I'm not as smooth in person as I am in my music and that's because when I'm writing my music and trying to be sexy, I can be in my own little studio space and I can have, I can figure out how to be sexy for like a couple of hours. Yeah, I'm like I have the privacy to be sexy in my own space and not trip over my words and I can redo all my takes. So I get it Like it, love it. All of those, all of those fun little ad libs of me being like, yes, ma'am on my track took several tries.

Speaker 3: 30:24

Well, just you know, whenever I listen to it, I still I am like yes, ma'am, thank you, thank you. And I even catch myself saying that I would bottom, even though I'm not necessarily a bottom, but it even inspired me to consider it, definitely through the song. Thank you, my wife loves that.

Speaker 1: 30:42

Oh, that's the next episode. My wife, we love the song.

Speaker 3: 30:46

I wanted to ask you one more question before we wrap up today. What is it that you see when it comes to visibility for trans folks, especially trans mass folks? Where do you see your role in that, and also, where do you see that we can make improvements to? Might be a heavy question, but I'm sure you know a great question You'll, whichever one you want to answer first yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:11

So I definitely, I think, across the board, I think there just needs to be more visibility for trans men and like I just, you know, I really want to. I think part of the reason why I've been putting myself out there so much is because I'm like we all need to put ourselves out there a little bit more.

Speaker 2: 31:27

You know, like I want to see more trans men at the forefront and particularly I want to see more like trans men of color at the forefront because, like looking at like a lot of the representation I had like growing up as a trans person, just like on YouTube or just like from trans creatives, a lot of them tend to be white and you know there's or white adjacent or white adjacent, yeah, and so a lot of the times it for a while, like growing up, like I was kind of like I don't think that anyone would be interested in listening or just like engaging with content that's mine, because, like I'm not, you know, I'm not white, I'm not cis, I'm not, you know, there were, there were a lot of things that were going against me, and so I was, I think I just kind of like after 2020, I kind of was just fed up and I was like you know what now?

Speaker 3: 32:20

like if there's not a space for me right now, I'll make a space because, like I and that's why I wanted to bring you on the episode is because I've seen that in your work, that you.

Speaker 1: 32:35

Oh, I did not know it had a bitch on there. I am so sorry. That's a point. It's a specific name. You see that I can't even read what it's about it's got the BB, it's it did you know big bowser big bitch.

Speaker 2: 32:52

There you go, big bitch in the house that's a trouble.

Speaker 1: 32:58

You got his hands all over again. I know I'm gonna get fired.

Speaker 3: 33:01

Oh my god the comments are coming. Damn it, that's transphobia. Listen oh okay.

Speaker 3: 33:10

I just want to thank you today and just thank you for the work that you are doing and that you continue to build, and even as, like a young artist, the way that you show up or I've seen you show up allegedly on the internet because we we barely hung out but at least the way that I've seen you show up in this space, it's been inspiring to not only see a trans man and, like you said, a trans man of color, because that is completely valid privilege played into a lot of those spaces that a lot of trans men had access to youtube, camera, etc. Etc. And the way that you show up for community. I feel like you inspire even beyond trans mask as well, like you inspire multiple different communities, like if I look at your following in your comments, it's, it's beautiful how you've built that structure and just thank you so much for coming on today telling your story. And one more thing for the folks where do we follow you? Where's? What's the social media? What's the tags?

Speaker 2: 34:05

where are they at oh yes, so you can find me on instagram at sherman gift basket. That's my. That's a play on my last name from god. Oh yeah, it's a play on my last name, because my last name is a regalado, which kind of translate regalado yeah so it kind of translates into like like. The indirect translation is like gifted like. It's kind of like like somebody gifted something you know. So you know, gift basket, fun little play on words.

Speaker 3: 34:36

I like the market. I mean I name myself Shane Ivan Nash because it's sin, so I get the whole market awesome.

Speaker 1: 34:47

I've been dying to push it on you, by the way, yeah.

Speaker 3: 34:49

I cannot well, you know what boy Bowser make sure folks to follow. Yes, go to Spotify, play his music. Just put it on mute in the background and just put it on loop so we can get those those plays up, because it's really important to support our trans artists.

Speaker 2: 35:06

Support your local trans artists today yes, and download the music.

Speaker 3: 35:10

Yes, follow the playlist, follow on tiktok instagram wherever you can find this gentleman. And again, thank you so much for coming today and being transparent and I look forward to bring you on another episode and maybe even have a more deep conversations. I'm going to try to bring on late another folks as well and I would love to kind of have like a trans male artists kind of yeah, I would love to have you.

Speaker 2: 35:33

I would love some hard K Same thing.

Speaker 3: 35:43

Here we are in a man first. One way it is really open is firm is, firm is firm as tight as the lock, so we can you make sure that the motivate, a large class, is open and are overseas. So, master, that's right, that doesn't stop me from being sexy. Big thighs save lives all right, precisely, precisely.

Speaker 1: 35:59

Well folks, my name is Shane Ivanash I was gonna say big breasts is better than the rest.

Speaker 3: 36:04

Oh my God, and I'm Blossomsy.

Speaker 1: 36:05

Brown hey.

Speaker 3: 36:08

This is the Transparency Podcast. Stay tuned for more episodes. Make sure to hit that like and subscribe, and follow every one of us on this couch.

Speaker 1: 36:21

Have a wonderful night.