Breaking the Mold with Trans Influencer Insights and Advocacy w/ Cody

Strap in for a heartfelt journey as Cody, a trans TikTok sensation and HRTea podcaster, joins Shane Ivan Nash and Blossom C. Brown to unravel the rich tapestry of the transgender community's narratives.

Our conversation meanders through the importance of friendships during one's transition, the solidarity found within trans camaraderie, and the significant role that authentic media representation plays in fostering progress.

Together, we navigate the responsibility influencers bear and the collective quest to amplify transmasculine voices while pondering the vision that fuels our podcast's existence—to unify, commemorate, and champion our community's diverse experiences.


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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

proud of the conversations you're having. What the hell inspired you to do this?

Speaker 2: 0:04

I started HRT about a year and a half ago. It was me and my friend at the time, the first trans friend I've ever had, and I had never spoken to another trans person ever. I was seven years into my transition and I had never spoken a single word to another trans person, which is a crime.

Speaker 3: 0:22

That's why, like your podcast is so, so important, and I love the fact that there are so many more trans podcasters out there. Only us can tell our stories and our experiences the most important part is coming together.

Speaker 2: 0:36

It can show the world that we're not just pronouns and respect me and blah, blah, blah. This is the Transparency.

Speaker 1: 0:44

Podcast Show. Welcome to the Transparency Podcast. We have a very special episode and the first time we've ever done this. We're actually calling all the way on the East Coast right now to a trans guy who's got a podcast and he's blown up on TikTok. I mean, how freaking cool is this, Cody? How are you doing today, bro?

Speaker 2: 1:07

Oh hi, it's so nice to be here, yay, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1: 1:12

Yes, great Dude, I got to tell you you popped up on my FYP because like we post stuff with our podcast and I think like the algorithm kind of saw similar like conversations and crossover. I mean, it's two trans guys with a podcast. Of course you're going to notice like what's going on. Let's mash them together. And I started to look at some of your stuff, dude, I am so proud of the conversations you're having. What the hell inspired you to do this?

Speaker 2: 1:39

Well, thank you so much. I appreciate that. I started HRT about a year and a half ago maybe. Uh, it was me and my friend at the time, um, and it was the first time. Actually, that friend was the first friend I've ever had. A first, not the first friend I've ever had. The first trans friend I've ever had, yeah, and I had never spoken to another trans person ever.

Speaker 2: 2:04

I was seven years into my transition and I had never spoken a single word to another trans person, which is a crime. But yeah, I had finally opened up to somebody else who was trans and I realized how important that is to somebody's transition and so I came to him with the idea. We started it, we built the whole studio, whatever. We got 10 episodes in and then we stopped being friends. But the intent was still there and I I got to take HRT in the direction I wanted to.

Speaker 2: 2:42

I think when I see trans influencers sometimes I think it's very much like here's platform, this is all about me. Here's I. Here's how I started hormones. Here's how I came out. Look at me where, with HRT, I think I wanted to turn it more into like uh, how do I word it? Like here's my platform. Let me open the doors and let everybody else kind of talk and find each other and tell their coming out stories. So I kind of I have guests on, I interview them, I like to hear their coming out story, I ask them about what they're passionate about when it comes to the trans community, and then we kind of sit in front of the camera and just get angry together and yeah, that's pretty much what it is, I love it.

Speaker 3: 3:23

We're here for it. We're totally here for it. Now, speaking of podcasts, since you have this wonderful hit podcast, you know transmasculine representation is so, so important, especially transmasculine podcasts. So can you talk to us a little bit about the importance of that for our transmasculine community?

Speaker 2: 3:43

Yeah, for sure, like I said, like it, when I see people on the internet, it's very much like here's how I did it and I think that's great. I do. I think it's important, you know, to educate people and show what it looks like. But I think the most important part is coming together and realizing that we don't. It's not a competition, if that makes sense. Yeah, I know that. Like see why I wanted him on.

Speaker 1: 4:12

Do you see? I watched his episodes. It's very much like we give sound effect. Dude, you're like the east coast version of what we're doing right now, like it's cool that it's happening like simultaneously. My next question is like so this happened like what, like two, three years ago, is kind of when you really started formulating this, or Because that's when it happened for us dude. I feel like there was some sort of like download we both got at the same time Because it's so crazy.

Speaker 1: 4:37

You mentioned that because that's the pillar of like when I told Blossom when I wanted to create this show is I kind of get pissed at the way some influencers have used their privilege. When it's like you have all of this access and all this attention and it's like what are you doing with it? Yeah, you're lining your pockets, but I mean, if you're not really pushing something forward, you're going to be the flavor of the month, you're going to be gone pretty quickly, you're not going to great investments and then you didn't use that moment when you could have furthered other things and it might end up a has been. You know what I mean. Like there's a lot of different situations for folks and it's like I've been in this new thing now Cause, like I've been an activist my whole life, dude, and like I've as blossom knows and she's been yelling at me for years I need to get it on camera. I need to be a content creator, I need to do those things because, like I'm like a traditional activist, like I was very like nah dude, I don't need the credit, I just want to do the work, I want to get it out there.

Speaker 1: 5:45

But telling these stories and telling even like realizing my own story wasn't told.

Speaker 1: 5:47

It kind of brought me into this like, but everybody else's story is not being told as well, and that's why we created this show.

Speaker 1: 5:50

And when I saw your show too, I'm like, dude, what you're doing in New York is like you're uplifting folks kind of across the country Cause you get to do it more virtually too, cause we're I mean, we've got influencers here all day, so we got it's LA, so we can kind of scoop up a lot of trans folks.

Speaker 1: 6:06

But like the way that you've done this virtual thing is kind of why I wanted to call into first, I wanted to learn how to do it, so we can do this with you and just to to see, like, your impact. I mean, I don't know if you see it, maybe you do as a businessman like that's gonna go really far with being able to pull people in and have those big conversations, because it's like the way you have conversations again is similar to how we have it. It's like, yes, we're trans people, but we're talking about deep stuff. This isn't like pronouns, one-on-one kind of thing, which I'm just so tired of those conversations. And again, how did you get inspired, like, was there like an activist moment or or something that like really triggered this for you.

Speaker 2: 6:46

Well, I think I don't know. I think that when I'm scrolling on TikTok and I see trans influencers mostly trans mask influencers the videos that are always going viral are like here's what happened to me on tea, here's how tea changed me physically, and stuff like that, and those are the things that are always going viral and it's like that's great, I'm glad, but like also there's so much more to being trans than just what hormones does to your body. Like I don't know, I think I was watching an episode with um. I don't want to butcher his name, it was one of yours. I think his name was Ezra.

Speaker 3: 7:26

Ezra. Yeah, we love Ezra.

Speaker 2: 7:29

Yeah, and the conversations you guys got into is kind of what I'm getting at, where, like the deep stuff and like when trans, masc people and trans women too, can get into those conversations together, yeah it, I don't know, it's just it can show the world that we're not just pronouns and respect me and blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean. Like we are such deeper people than that and you know what I mean. That's all like when you and ezra were talking about like packing, I think, is what's sticking out my head right now. Like that's something that you don't see on tiktok. You know.

Speaker 1: 8:02

That's why I had that conversation dude. I'm having the conversations everybody has in the living room. I'm like let's put it on camera.

Speaker 2: 8:08

Right, you're right, because nobody wants to have those conversations on TikTok, and I get that, but, like, I think they need to be had because those conversations are lonely and confusing for a lot of trans guys and nobody knows how to go about it unless they see other people talking about it. You know what I mean. So, yeah, that's kind of how I feel about that.

Speaker 1: 8:27

That's awesome and thanks for watching the episode. I mean, that's what I'm trying to be, is really intentional with, especially. I know I don't know if you can see my intention that I'm really leaning towards trans mask, like raising voices, but at the same time that's I'm really intentional about having Blossom on, because black trans women have really paved the way and even you know Blossom's been an ally for me. I've been an ally for her, like An accomplice yeah, accomplice. Let me get it right, you're right, cause I'm willing to get arrested.

Speaker 3: 8:54

Okay, be clear we support accomplice.

Speaker 1: 8:58

To me that's a higher honor because, like, again, our liberation is tied and we have these conversations and these nuances about how we find middle ground in that space and like how we can support each other. And it's like it's so cool to also see another trans mask guy doing it and the way that you're doing it and the authenticity that allegedly you're bringing. You may be a great actor I don't know but I mean the content you're putting out is truly.

Speaker 1: 9:23

It feels really similar to what we're doing and it feels like this is the next step I think in community is having these conversations, because I've never been a me, me, me kind of guy, like I've always been afraid of the camera, even right now, me doing all this stuff only really happened in the last like three years and it's like. But it's important because these conversations really drive forward and some of the guests that you have on there like I mean, you had a conversation again about Buck Angel, you know, and we can totally get into that and you know and that whole conversation. But there you go Two hours. Oh my god, I love our freaking here like we don't even know how to do with it.

Speaker 2: 10:16

That's why we're right there I think the most interesting part is watching you guys trying to figure out the button yeah, it's literally like it's just part of it.

Speaker 1: 10:27

One day we'll be professionals.

Speaker 3: 10:29

No, no, and it's funny that you bring up Buck Angel because, again, you know, this is an opinionated show, allegedly, allegedly or whatnot, and you were talking about. You know the things that go viral when we talk about trans masculine people, but you know, sometimes people like Buck Angel go viral for the most stupidest things, and so I'm just really curious to know your thoughts about that, and what are you trying to steer away from that people like Buck implement into their content?

Speaker 2: 11:03

Right, so my opinion.

Speaker 3: 11:08

Yeah, let's go. I don't know man, he's shaking his head like girl. If you don't leave that button alone, please leave this button.

Speaker 1: 11:18

He's like deprogramming it right now, as we speak.

Speaker 2: 11:25

So my opinion about Buck is the same as caitlin jenner, blair, white. You know the three of them. They all go hand in hand. They all kind of do the same thing to the trans community and to me I think it is all about craving cis male validation. Oh yeah, I think we all, we've all done it. I've created cis male validation. I'm sure you guys have some point in your life. Everybody does it, even cis men do it.

Speaker 2: 11:51

But as a trans person, I think we unlearn how to do that because we start living for ourselves and we don't care what the fuck people think. But people like buck and blair and caitlin jen I think I always say that Caitlyn Jenner is somebody who wants to be the only trans person that exists. And I think that goes for Buck as well, where it's like I don't know, I think they want their Republican bros, their Republican friends, to be like trans people are mentally ill and they're weird and they're broken toys. But you know that buck angel, he's fine, I guess he's, he's okay, and to me it's like that's incredibly spineless, because it's like what you're doing all of that just so people who hate you hate you a little bit less, like at the end of the day, they're still not gonna choose you, they're still gonna think that you don't deserve rights and I don't know.

Speaker 2: 12:49

Talking about what you got going on downstairs and stuff is to people who make fun of you. It's just spineless, I guess.

Speaker 3: 12:59

That's a really, really great word and that's a really a great point, because I feel like that base tries to cater to people that truly don't. They know they don't give a fuck about them, but they get the numbers and they get that content and because they're YouTube, they're YouTubers, they make their money off of being intentionally problematic. Yeah, as fuck, and I really do hate that, those particular type of people um, because I actually have a history with all three of them, to be quite honest with you but I hate that they get the spotlight in a way that really tries to demean the trans community. But also, let's be very clear, the trans community is also not suffering greatly just because of them. They don't have that much power and as someone I think that's the problem.

Speaker 1: 13:43

Is at one point at certain point, like Caitlyn Jenner was put up there, right.

Speaker 3: 13:48

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 13:48

And you know, blair may have when she because, like when Blair, because I didn't know her before that whole Jubilee thing. And then I'd like afterwards I was like who the hell is this person? Yeah, and I don't know this. Even Buck, like I saw Buck back in the day and Buck, like for a lot of trans guys and I'm sure this is for you, cody like I don't know if you saw Buck, like maybe like 15, 20 years ago, when he was like I'm a man with a pussy, you know, and he was like he had a different kind of activism vibe and he gained fame off of that.

Speaker 1: 14:19

He was the character in the adult entertainment world, the world yeah, but he was like proud of it in this way that like felt liberating, and now it's turned into this weird right wing talking piece that I mean they just they disrespect him to his face and he just sits there and just takes it. Meanwhile he attacks his community and and another thing, what do you feel about these, these content creators that they're really attacking? Something I've noticed is a lot of afab young folks when they're, when they're creating their content. I think as a 30 year old adult or as a six I don't know how old buck is but you know as something like he's very old, you're putting that on your computer and sitting there for eight hours editing that, like that's that's you're bullying like a 16 year old no, it's.

Speaker 2: 15:12

Have you seen his? I don't know what he was doing. I think it was an interview with somebody and he was like you know, I walk around wearing a costume every day. That's what being trans is. It's a costume, I wear a costume, I'm pretending to be a man every day and it's like wow, what, what? Like. If that's what you think trans is, how in God's name are you walking around like, letting people say he, him and use your preferred name? Like? Does that mean I shouldn't? Does that mean you're even trans? If you think it's a costume? Because to make your money, sure, but whatever.

Speaker 3: 15:46

Yeah, and I noticed that a lot of these trans conservatives, they love to dehumanize themselves to get attention, yeah, and I think it's one of the most despicable things to actually do. And what they do with people like detransitioners is they find a way to propagandize them by putting them on this pedestal that, oh, it's not cool to be trans. This is what happens when you're tired of being trans, and that's not really the case, or whatnot. I am a firm believer. Yes, detransitioners do need the research and they do need that attention or whatnot, to figure out why somebody would not want to be transitioning. Because there's different levels when we talk about detransitioning. Because I know for a fact for me, when I was transitioning, I wasn't safe at home to transition with my family, so I would actually leave the house dressed one way and come home dressed another way. And so some of us who's like I'm from Mississippi, so some of us at home had to detransition for jobs, had to detransition for housing, like there are so many different things, mainly because of safety, but people like Buck and Blair in particular, or whatever, they try to profit off of something that they really can't profit off of.

Speaker 3: 16:54

All I see is hurt pain when they look at other non-binary people, people like you and I who, although we may not have a bigger platform than them, we make a bigger impact with voices and with people coming over to us.

Speaker 3: 17:09

So that's why your podcast is so, so important, and I love the fact that there are so many more trans podcasters out there or whatnot because only us can tell our stories and our experiences and you're right, I understand, about the whole trans one-on-one thing and whatnot. I also want us all to remember, too, there are some trans people that benefit off of teaching that trans one-on-one, and that's how they get viewership. It's not for us, but we also need to make room for them as well, too, and I think all of us being able to coexist in these different ways is really, really important, and I just really love the fact that two trans masculine people are sitting in front of me behind the mic being able to have these impactful conversations. What would you like to see your podcast go to next? What do you think your level up would look like? Oh, that's a deep one. We're deep over at the transparency podcast show.

Speaker 2: 18:17

I love it. I absolutely love it. I mean, I'm constantly trying to find more and more guests from different walks of life and I think I want to keep doing that, no matter where it goes. I got big dreams. I want HRT to go very, very far. I want to be the podcast or the person that every trans person goes to when they want to tell their coming out story. That's what I want to be and yeah, and I think with that I think I could do a lot when it comes to Buck and Blair and all these people who are making money off of hating their own community. And another thing about that is like how I'm. I'm the type of person who can put something on the internet and get massive, mass amounts of hate from all the transphobes in the world and be fine. I could be totally okay with that.

Speaker 2: 19:03

But when the trans community, if the trans community came for me, oh my God, I would respectfully log off and you'd never see me again, like I don't know how these people rest their head on their pillows every night, knowing that people who came from the same place they did, who had, who shared the same struggles like that's just beyond me and that is just something I never want to be. That's that. That will never be HRT. I can tell you that. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 19:33

Well, you know, another issue that seems to come up is like the non-binary issue, you know, and it's there's this pressure to and it's it's definitely a conservative talking point. It seems it's kind of bled into our own communities and I see this from folks that it's shocking sometimes to hear that they don't consider non-binary folks a part of the umbrella. I mean, there are non-binary folks that don't identify under the umbrella, but it's like you're not even giving folks the room and then simultaneously those same folks are saying, well, I don't believe in giving trans care to kids. But then also, at the same time, there's that third layer of well, you got to be passable to go in the bathroom. So it's like damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Speaker 1: 20:19

Hard rock, hard place. There's no place for any of these folks to actually go within their ideology. It's like everything always cancels itself out and and I mean, how do you, how do you feel when you see that stuff? Like, what does that do to you? Cause I mean, it makes me angry and it's part of the reason why I wanted to have these conversations on the podcast is to just have those conversations out there.

Speaker 2: 20:42

Of course. Yeah, I mean non-binary people deserve a right to be here just as much as the three of us do. You know what I mean. And for another trans person to invalidate somebody's gender is beyond me, because we know more than anybody what it's like to be misunderstood, what it's like to not fit in, to be confused, like we get it more than anybody and to push somebody else out of the community.

Speaker 2: 21:09

It's like you know when people, you know that feeling, when people someone's being transphobic to you and it's like why do you care? Like why do you care so much? It's not, it's not your body, it's not, it has nothing to do with you. Like it's just like every trans transgender person knows that. So for a trans person to say that to another one is just crazy to me, because it's like we are all just here trying to be happy Like I don't know, and the bigger the trans community gets, the more rights we will have, the more we will be seen. Why would you want to not have that like? And I guess, I guess I think Blair's just using her as an example, but there's many people who think like her. Their uh rebuttal to that oh, it's, it's because I don't want my community to look a certain way and it's like in what way we're not a monolith dude, we're not a monolith, yeah, no.

Speaker 3: 22:08

And it does include race too, which a lot of people who watch like that trans debate or whatever like why are you bringing up race or whatever like that? And it's so funny because I still deal with comments from the Jubilee video. Like Jubilee posted a new video and I commented, and some black queer person or whatever that follows me on Instagram I don't know why was just talking about oh Blair, ate y'all up or whatever like that. No, did you actually go fact check a lot of what I said, because a lot of what I said is actually proven and I think what the other side was just talking about was rubbish, jubbish.

Speaker 3: 22:40

I say that trans liberals annihilated trans conservatives 100% in that debate and y'all that follow this podcast and y'all that follow us or whatever that disagree, oh well, you can have several seats in the back where you belong, and that's that. But you know, I just I pray for them and I'm going to be humble when it comes to people like Blair and Buck, because you know they're still trans people. Yeah, you know they're still trans people, yeah, despite their harmful ways, because I felt like Blair really did try to harm my safety with her lies and everything like that, and I can boldly say it and prove it, but as a trans person, I still have to give grace and space because ultimately, everybody that's not trans or whatever they see us as some type of character. Yeah, and I hate to admit it, it's just that when we peel back the layers in our community, we have conservative, we have liberal, we have black, we have Latino, all of the things or whatever like that.

Speaker 3: 23:45

And so, you know, when I look at somebody like Blair White who dismisses half of her heritage, I'm like, okay, girl, you have a lot of deeper rooted things going on and I really do hope that you seek the healing that you need for your life and your wellbeing. And it's the same with Buck or whatever like that. You know, to a certain degree I had empathy for Buck, but I just hate the fact that they're both natural liars. And that's just my opinion, that's my experience, and so it is what it is, or whatever. But I just really wish that we would come to a place where we would be able to make that impact together, and I think the way we do it is by having these conversations that you, I and Cody are having right now, because if we're going to build it right. We got to get comfortable with the uncomfortable.

Speaker 1: 24:31

Yeah, I mean to that point, you know, with everything that's happened with Next Benedict. I mean, if you take a look back at that episode a couple months ago, what was I talking about? I was talking about how the ideology that she was spewing did not consider folks like me, because it was only focused on trans women. It was not looking at afab folks. Yeah, and look at what happened to next and there's a part of me that feels like you know, I don't know how buck and blair sleep at night knowing that that's the rhetoric they're putting, especially with the content uh, with children that they're attacking while allegedly saying they're protecting the children.

Speaker 1: 25:10

At the same time, and at this same time with everything that happened with next, I haven't seen a post from either one of them after the death. I I mean, that's got to be some hard shoes for them to walk in at this point, because the thing that we've been screaming that I said in that debate is like you're're going to get people killed. Now someone's been killed. Yeah, how do you like, how do you feel about that, cody? Because, like this next Benedict thing, it's, it's rocked me, dude, it's rocked me.

Speaker 2: 26:10

I said something in the beginning of my episode that is coming out tomorrow. Um, it's, you're right. It is people like Blair and Buck putting out this message into the world that it's okay to poke fun at trans people, trans kids, and it's all fun and games until somebody's actually murdered for it. And you're who people like us are looking at now, like how do you feel now, like you're so, about protecting the kids? Are you happy? Are you happy now? Like that's how I feel about it? I don't know. Yeah, because you're. You're setting this example for children. When you're putting content out into the world, you are setting an example.

Speaker 1: 27:04

Why are you putting anything out to the world that could harm people? Children, yeah, just like Papaya from Libs of TikTok, I feel like emboldened. Those three girls in Oklahoma, I mean I can even see Blair and Buck's connection to this situation. I can see all of these folks with blood on their hands, blair and Buck's connection to this situation. I can see all of these folks with blood on their hands. And you know the thing that they are not saying they're not looking at the actual effects of the rhetoric. They're just spewing this rhetoric because I mean, I don't know if it's capitalistically convenient, because the algorithm does, unfortunately, reward controversy and it's like something that we have to deal with, and blair has made a, she's made a platform off of being controversial.

Speaker 3: 27:42

But the thing is, though, how come and this is just my view again her controversy can kill, and that's what we really need to talk about, because, from what I went through because of her as a black person, yeah, I was baby, I was like cody.

Speaker 1: 27:59

Seriously, the stuff that blossom showed me in her dms I mean, that's why I got angry about it.

Speaker 3: 28:05

I was afraid she was gonna get attacked because these are conservatives, blair it's domestic terrorism and we need to call it what it is in the trans community anti-blackness. It's a domestic terrorism in the trans community and you have people like blair and Buck that benefit off of it and it's just like and walk away with no consequences as well.

Speaker 1: 28:25

It feels like. It's like they're in their silo because they've created whatever you know monopoly pocket that they've, they've created, but it's like there's there's bodies everywhere, there's casualties everywhere, dude.

Speaker 2: 28:37

And Blossom I. I everywhere dude and blossom I. I've read some of the things that I've read some of your hate comments under that jubilee video and it's absolutely horrific, and you know that she read those and didn't do anything about it. Like the fact that she let another trans woman get treated like that is beyond me. It makes me so mad. Like for what it's worth, though, like I did a whole reaction video actually to that whole Jubilee video on my Patreon with my friend Nathan. The whole time we were, you know, getting mad with you at Blair, thank you, and Shane, every time you spoke we were like who's this Shane guy?

Speaker 1: 29:20

Like I gotta get him on guy, like that's why blossom told me to get on camera. Dude, yeah, I've been doing this.

Speaker 3: 29:24

I got him on. I was like shane, come on, and she's like you need to be a content creator.

Speaker 1: 29:28

Stop doing activism so much.

Speaker 2: 29:30

You can do both like yeah yeah, and I think I manifested in some way because and you know I have I have a whole discord server with you know a bunch of trans people that I push very much because I think community is so important, and when that Jubilee video came out, it you know, I just I want to let you know that the trans people with their heads screwed on right, who have a good head on their shoulders, are we're with you. You know what I mean, I think in those moments I'm going to cry.

Speaker 3: 29:56

That means so much to me.

Speaker 1: 29:58

The silent majority I'm not going to lie did kind of hurt us a little bit, but we had to learn that the silent majority was behind us because we saw a lot of hate comments. We might even do an episode and read them all that's in the works, but it definitely. It was kind of shocking to see that much hate. And you know, to talk about what you mentioned about Blair, just kind of letting that happen to another trans woman. Here's one thing that I know that, yes, we've talked about Buck and Blair, but if, if I saw in the comments here on the transparency podcast and I want to make that very clear I would not want my following to go attack Blair, that's that I mean I, if I saw that happening, I would have said hey guys, chill out. And the fact that there's just no responsibility with such a platform like that just is dangerous. I feel you know also.

Speaker 1: 30:48

you know also Jubilee's fault too Like yeah, we're going to do a whole episode on that Trust. I got some scoop coming in. I actually have some folks from some other episodes so we can talk about, like the editing style and how that works, because we did some research on Jubilee and there's a lot of, you know, investors that we weren't aware of and even the way the questions were slided, it wasn't presented to us as the way that it was, like it was supposed to be a middle ground thing, when really it was like you know, jersey Shore and crack. It felt like you know, like I think that brings us to the wrap of the episode. Dude, I just want to like give you your flowers and just say thank you, like from like doing this on the East Coast, like getting the tea and the scoop from community, and the way that you do in uplifting folks is really important.

Speaker 1: 31:43

I think us doing it in tandem, together and even partnering like this, first of all super cool, because I'm not about trans guys competing. So I fucking love that we're working together and supporting each other because, as you heard on the ezra episode and other episodes, I'm sure I'm gonna have more trans guys on talking about this. How can we follow you? How can we support you? How can my, you know people send some love to you?

Speaker 2: 32:01

yeah, for sure. Uh, you follow me at hrt podcast or the hrt podcast on tiktok and instagram. Um, you follow my personals. It's cody logan. Cody with two l's, logan with two n's. Um, you can join my discord server. It's in all of my links and all my social media. It's just a bunch of trans people just hanging out and having a good time. I think it's super important and, yeah, that's pretty much where you can find me.

Speaker 3: 32:33

Blossom, do you have anything you want to add? Standing in solidarity with myself and with Shane, because we need to actually hear it from people, I will say, after all of this happened, the people who were really for us. They start showing up and it made my heart just so full, and today you have made my heart so full and we just I just want to say thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm always standing in solidarity with you and thank you for standing in solidarity with us thank you.

Speaker 2: 32:59

I mean, you guys are. You guys are doing it too.

Speaker 1: 33:02

Uh, don't give me all the credit, you guys are doing it's one of those things dude I think like we both got like a brain message from the universe at the same time.

Speaker 2: 33:14

Yeah, it was like here.

Speaker 1: 33:16

Someone was like handle it, it's time to have the conversation trans community. And you got the East Coast, I got the West Coast. So, you know, maybe we can make this national and really make it impact. Dude, this has been a great episode. This is the Transparency Podcast. My name is Shane Ivanash. I'm with my co-host and partner in crime.

Speaker 1: 33:34

Blossom C Brown Blossom, you want to do the high five? Yes, Blossom, you want to do the high five. You got to always have a high five in there. Make sure to follow Cody on the Transparency Podcast. Links will be in below at the HRT Podcast. And Cody dude, do you have any last statements or are you good?

Speaker 2: 33:50

Thank you so much for having me on. I feel like we got it right.

Speaker 1: 33:52

Yeah, this was awesome.

Speaker 2: 33:53

We did it.

Speaker 1: 33:54

And thanks for the technical issues as well. This is our first time doing it and we I mean. Your podcast inspired me to want to do some zoom stuff, so thanks, bro. I love the conversation and I look forward to seeing your content keep growing.

Speaker 3: 34:07

Yeah, hopefully we'll have you in studio soon, sometime.

Speaker 2: 34:10

That would be great have a wonderful day, man.

Speaker 1: 34:14

See you soon and everyone. Have a wonderful, wonderful day. More episodes every tuesday. Let's die you.