The Impact of California Gender Identity Law

Can the state really know what's best for your child? 

Join Shelbe Chang and Thomas Barnes as we dissect California's divisive new law allowing teachers to aid in students' gender identity transitions without parental notification. 

We question Governor Gavin Newsom's political motives, explore the potential strain on family relationships, and reflect on the broad emotional and societal impacts. 

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Chapters

• 0:00 Government Overreach on Gender Identity
• 12:16 Business Practices and Government Regulation

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Along to the timeline. So next one coming up, I believe, is the California has a law that allows teacher and school government to involve with gender identity transition and that the parents are going to be the one who's going to be blindsided or the last to know. I think that to me, I really think that's wrong. So far, there are many different levels and personally, first of all, I feel transitioning, gender transitioning or even coming out of sexuality orientation. You know, this is all personal. The government, the teacher, the school, should not get involved. If anything, the government should be last, all right, all right.

Speaker 1: 0:57

So I think this is a distraction. Okay, this is a distraction coming from Gavin Newsom, and I believe he wants attention and they already know what kind of card you're playing. This is right before Biden resigned. So this is like I'm knocking on the door. Make sure you guys know what you know. Hear me, you know what I mean. So I feel it's a distraction and I feel that it's LGBTQ community got used as a political weapon for this one and that triggered a lot of reaction, including Elon Musk, because Elon Musk's now daughter is a trans person and he said his son is dead to me. That's why he said today, actually on Twitter X, and actually that's somehow true, because for any transgender person, they know if they really fully transition, whoever they are previously, it's pretty much you know done, you know done. I won't say dead, I'll say done, you know, move on right, move forward. So, anyways, I want to hear your, your, your thoughts on this government control or government overreach, I call it.

Speaker 2: 2:24

My thoughts on the government overreach it. My thoughts on the government overreach my thoughts on the this thing with gavin newsom is uh, let me focus on this right quick. My thoughts on this is this is a giant step totally in the wrong direction. I get that the DNC loves to see themselves, especially nowadays. They love to see themselves as the ally to the little guy.

Speaker 1: 3:01

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 3:02

But when it comes down to brass tacks and doing something, they do too much, there's a saying you're doing too much, they're doing way too much. And what a lot of people don't understand is they did not this. What California's done has not taken a single positive step forward to help the LGBTQ community at all. In fact, if anything, it's muddied the waters more and it's made worse. It's going to generate so many more problems like a wildfire over the next five to ten years. Because now you've taken, you've made parents the villain. You've made parents the the villain. You've made the parents a villain. They can't say nothing to their children about gender. So if your kid goes to school, we already know children are easily influenced by everything you see on tv, the internet, internet at school, with their friends, in magazines, on the radio, in songs, in movies. You know, and they're already. It's already started. I mean it started back when California started having psychologists.

Speaker 2: 4:27

Right you know, promote this with patients who were confused, you know, and instead of following the prescribed model to determine, you know, to help this person determine if they are gender dysphoric or not, we've just jumped in the boat. Oh, there's a bigger boat over there and it says just believe everybody, or tell them, just pat them on the back and tell them it's all good, you know. And now you got parents going out of their way to convince their children that their gender is for it. And I mean, how many documentaries do you do, does uh pbs have to do for you to see people in their 20s and 30s just crying because they went down this path, believing they were gender dysphoric? They went down this path believing they were gendered as four. Come to find out later.

Speaker 2: 5:36

Because, you know, this is all mental and emotional. It takes time to work through these things, to figure out the truth, especially when you don't know and don't have experience to judge things against. It takes time to get there. You get further down the line. Now, all of a sudden, the young lady Janet is like shit, I really was James. And James is like well, shit, I really was Janet.

Speaker 1: 6:18

Or should I say well, maybe Michelle is Michael, Michael is Michelle.

Speaker 2: 6:24

Yeah, somebody said something to me a couple of days ago and I was like I don't get it Because it sounded like they were trying to tell me a couple days ago and I was like I don't get it because it sounded like they were trying to tell me a joke. But, either way it goes, it's this, even with the, I'm not. I'm not a doctor. Let me preface that I'm not a doctor. I don't study psychology. I have a few friends that are gay and I've met and talked with so many lesbians and we had a few that were friends that were lesbian and trans. And I don't really know about the. I don't really know about the other references because I don't really ask, because at the same time, I'm like you're cool with me, I'm cool with you, I don't care, yeah. Yeah, you know you're not paying my bill, so really, you know.

Speaker 1: 7:22

True, yes, I don't really care.

Speaker 2: 7:24

But I've met people that not met, people I've talked to other people that talk about so and so who thought he was gay, but he's really not, or that thought they were a lesbian, but they really weren't. Or they thought they were straight, but they weren't, and they weren't sure. This is not a cut and dry black and white issue. It's not a cut and dry black and white issue. It's not a switch, you know. If anything, it's more one of those real stats where you got to turn in the knob or something. But it's not a cut and dry issue and it affects people in so many different ways and this law is going to in my opinion, this law is going to, really, really, really damage a lot of families. I want to say unintentionally, but part of me, to be honest, a part of me actually believes that they knew exactly what they were doing when they pushed this law through and they knew exactly what it was going to do to the population.

Speaker 1: 8:33

Yeah, and to me, just to close out, this topic is California has a lot more issues than this. To be honest with you, I mean, this is not even an issue to begin with. I know, yeah, you ain't never like this is such a an issue to begin with.

Speaker 2: 8:51

I know, yeah, you ain't never like. This is such a non-issue. I'm like why are we focused on this? This is such a non-issue.

Speaker 1: 9:01

Yeah, and we have like what Homeless issue, that's the major one. The homeless issue is so bad, the homeless issue is so bad, you can't.

Speaker 2: 9:10

It's very difficult now to go anywhere in California and not see a tent popped up on the corner.

Speaker 1: 9:19

I see a lot.

Speaker 2: 9:21

I see it here in Pasadena.

Speaker 1: 9:23

Yeah, everywhere In the morning. I wake up early in the morning. I see people on the sidewalk. They wake up too. They clean themselves up and dress. Oh my God, the city still pushes those people around.

Speaker 2: 9:38

Eventually somebody from the city comes by and pushes them out of there. They got to go somewhere else because we got to do maintenance.

Speaker 1: 9:44

We got to clean.

Speaker 2: 9:46

We got to do this, we got to do that. The only difference is now business owners can't be like, hey, get the fuck out from in front of my business.

Speaker 1: 9:53

Yeah, a lot of business already closed and we have very high crime. That's the issue. This is the issue, not gender identity. You know, it was never an issue.

Speaker 2: 10:07

The whole crime issue. That really pisses me off, all the people that got behind that. That really pisses me off With all the people that got behind that. That really pisses me off, and then they made some decisions that I was like, whoa yeah, there's a million ways you could have addressed that.

Speaker 1: 10:25

That would have cost less. And on top of that, if you talk about costing less, our California gas price is the highest in the nation. How about that, see? And then they want to raise and then they raise the people. I mean, I'm not putting anybody down, okay, but they raise the minimum wage for the fast food. At the same time, they raise everybody's hamburger price. That's just reality and you know. This is an issue.

Speaker 2: 11:00

Here's the trade-off with that. The only fast food joints they hurt were the small chains and the mom and pop ones. Those are the ones that really hurt Because they live month to month. Yes, the big chains, which is ones they were trying to affect, like McDonald's and Burger King, they ain't hurting them because the vast majority of them are franchises. At the end of the day, that franchise is still going to send all the money it's supposed to back to headquarters. All they did was make it less money that the franchisee owner gets to take home in their pocket.

Speaker 1: 11:39

Actually, I believe in the entire America small business owners percentage is higher than the corporation or franchising. Yeah. That's why they did that, because they want to kill the small business owners.

Speaker 2: 12:00

They put the bill for paying that stuff out on the small business owners because they're going to figure out the small business owners will figure out how to navigate that, how to bring stuff up to speed In the big franchise. All they got to do is follow the train. All the successful small businesses that make it work, the big companies. Okay, now how are they making that work? All right, 10 years, we'll follow that train. Be business as usual. You better worry about it.

Speaker 1: 12:34

See, I just don't get. I just don't understand what's wrong with Gavin Newsom. I think he has some control issue because remember, back in, just not too long ago, right before COVID, he put out a mandate for we cannot use plastic straw anymore. Remember that we're using paper straw. And then, funny thing is, yeah, but you can't remember.

Speaker 2: 13:00

Gavin Newsom is pandering, listen to me first.

Speaker 1: 13:03

But the if you go to Starbucks or Boba Place, the cup they use, which is gigantic, is plastic, you see. So I don't know what's. That's why I say he has some sort of. He has some sort of I don't know what's wrong in his mind. To be honest with you, he has no sense of what's important and what's not.