The Trans•Parency Podcast Show

Trans Identity, Spiritual Expression, and Hope

Shane Ivan Nash, Jessie McGrath

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Can embracing one's true self be a divine act? 

Join Shane Ivan Nash and Jessie McGrath as we navigate the evolution of gender identity, exploring the natural role of trans individuals in society. Trans people aren't just bridging the gender divide—they're opening doors to a deeper understanding between men and women. 

We'll tackle the misconceptions perpetuated by certain religious views and celebrate diversity and individualism as pillars of America's success, all while asserting that being trans is an authentic expression of a higher power's intent.

Layered with humor and heartfelt moments, our discussion shifts to the interplay between Christianity, hope, and politics. 



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Speaker 1:

But at the end of the day, we're all human. It's, I think, trans people the reason why there's more trans people, probably today, even if we want to. I'm not quite religious, but if there are Christian folks out there that want to look at it in that way, it's like maybe God are putting more trans people on earth because of what's going on with the gender wars. There's a lot of women that are being mistreated and men that are lonely and there's a lot of things that are going on and trans people being able to navigate. Hey, I've been in both bathrooms.

Speaker 1:

They both smell like shit you know and I can tell you that you're both going through shit and maybe you know, like maybe we can meet here and look at each other and support each other and trans people might be part of that awakening in human evolution. Like there has to be a reason why trans people exist and it's not because of the devil, because the trans people we're humans. Republicans, it's mostly folks that are religious, but there's even folks that are like, casual to ideas that even fall into the trap of well, trans people are this and trans people are that and gawk at us that we're not human beings at the end of the day, I get upset when people who are Christian tell me that I'm I'm going against God's vision for me and I know I'm embracing God's vision of who I am.

Speaker 2:

I was made trans. There's no doubt that I'm trans. I'm sorry if it's not what you think is normal in the world or what should be considered normal. It's how I was born and it's how God created me. And the fact that it took me 53 years to finally realize that I could embrace how God created me, you know that's when I finally started living and it truly was. Yes, god doesn't make mistakes. God made me trans, you know, and it's like God doesn't make mistakes. He made a kid with a cleft palate. Ok, that was how that was supposed to be. We don't get to pick and choose how we're, how we're created. You know it happens and it's something that we basically have no choice over. So you know to legislate against this for something that you know we basically have no control over it, it's, it's how we're created. Do we know the cause? No, but do we have to know the cause? We know we exist and that, to me, is, more than anything, just evidence of that. It is a part of the normal human condition.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and just like if I had beliefs that others wouldn't believe in. I wouldn't want others, like the idea that we need to have, especially like christians coming in and saying we need to make this a christian nation, we need christian laws. I mean, that's. It's just not what the american experience is. It's supposed to be give me your tired, give me your hungry, give me your poor, give me everyone from the world. Like the experiment of america is the. I mean, the reason why we dominate in the olympics is because of diversity and individualism and allowing people to be themselves.

Speaker 1:

Investments as well and truly cultivating and and building and working as a team and support I. I mean, you know they needed AC, they had AC in France, you know, like the way that America, the alleged the, the lie that we were told, and sometimes see it in some spaces like the Olympics, pop up and give us hope. It's like it's. Where are we going? If we're going into this Christian nation of this, that and the other, which sect?

Speaker 2:

of Christianity gets to control.

Speaker 1:

Is it the Catholic? Is it the Methodism? You can get into all kinds of fights.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's part of the reason why we have America is there was a fight about Christianity in Europe and certain groups wanted to get away and be able to express their own form of religion and not be forced to have religion. So for me, when you get to the point parishioners are complaining about the woke sermon that their minister just gave and he's talking about the Sermon on the Mount you have to question their Christianity beliefs Because I mean, it seriously is—Jesus was woke. Okay, jesus was woke. Listen honestly.

Speaker 1:

Jesus from what—listen, if the story of Christianity goes and I'm going to say this because I said it on my TikTok, but I'll say it in this episode Scientifically, if Jesus was an immaculate birth, there's no Y chromosome, right? So that means Jesus was a trans man. Hate to break it to y'all, or intersex, but from what? The representation? He had the long hair, but he had the beard thing. You know. I'm saying like it's giving trans guy and a lot of trans men I know have a lot of patience, so I could actually see the whole jesus trans thing. But just scientifically, there's no Y chromosome in that space. So the idea that you're following somebody who would do all of these things in the name of Jesus, jesus would have totally hung out with trans people. Jesus might've been trans themselves and, according to the story that y'all follow, is that he came from, you know, an immaculate birth. There's no male dna there. Scientifically, I'm just saying.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying yeah, you know we could get on to all of that, but uh, at the end of the day, uh, it was a very patriotic experience being at a democratic convention, more so than than I remember it any time previously. There were a lot of flags, there were a lot of chants of USA.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to lie Like it did something to me and I hate to say that. Listen, I love going off on tangents too. My apologies if I'm going left and right on you, but like that's just how I go sometimes, just to dance around, oh yeah, like that's just how I go sometimes, just to dance around.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, no, I mean I think we're having a great conversation the American flag thing.

Speaker 1:

Like not since 9-11 have I wanted to put a little remember how everybody put flags on their cars. It's giving that moment and not in a way that is as tragic as 9-11. It's somehow, some way I'm feeling some hope, but I feel guilty about it at the same time, just because of all of the other nuances behind it. But I still feel hope and I will say that's a nice feeling to feel as a trans person politically, because and it's not just trans people who are feeling that.

Speaker 2:

I see it across a lot of things.

Speaker 1:

And Sparkle is back in people's eyes in a way that I have not seen in many years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's it for me. It was such an empowering experience I I had some great things there. I mean, my thursday was so fantastic I I got to do my broadcast with my local TV station. I got to do a really big thing in the entertainment industry, which hopefully I will be able to talk about soon. And then I got to see Stevie Wonder I guess that was the night before, but I got to see Pink. I got to see the Chicks I guess that was the night before, but I got to see Pink. I got to see the chicks, it was and I got to see Kamala's give her speech. Now, it's not the first time I've seen her. I saw her speak as Attorney General, I saw her speak as AG or as DA of San Francisco. So I actually worked with her office, both in the DA's office in San Francisco and as AG in Sacramento, and so she's somebody who I'm comfortable with because I've been around her, I've seen her. We in California voted for her multiple times.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, we did, we did. Yeah, no, we did.

Speaker 2:

We did.

Speaker 1:

You know, it's just, there's those nuances of a lot of the decisions and even just the current administration, because it's hard for me to see like a Biden just be so silent on a lot of the things that were going on and have been just placed into law, especially for trans folks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, we only got a few more months that we have to worry about him. Yeah, we're going to get president Harrison and she's going to make some changes. She actually really does comment on it.

Speaker 1:

but you know, even if she doesn't, I have more faith, even now that I've learned more about Walls because he does have a, as they said, he's really into transgender stuff or something like that.

Speaker 2:

He's into that transgender stuff.

Speaker 1:

He's really into transgender stuff Something hilarious. I'm happy that Walls is into transgender stuff. I hope to maybe even meet Walls one day.

Speaker 2:

He's a sweet guy. I've got to, I want to go.

Speaker 1:

ATVing with him and hunting and something like that. Yes, I'm from California, but I still like doing all that dirty boy kind of stuff. Yes, us woke liberals do all that stuff too and wear flannel and chop wood.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I was in the Nebraska National Guard at the same time he was, so you know he seems like he's a guy to go have a good like.

Speaker 1:

he knows where the fucking. Let me not even curse President, let me give him some respect, but he probably knows where like a good burger joint is and like a good driving.

Speaker 1:

He knows where the guy, he knows where the dive bar is okay you know, like I feel like, and I feel like if he would karaoke, he knows how to vogue to madonna, like he does it. You know what I mean, but not in a way that's like problematic, like he actually truly knows the words and the points and you're just like wow, okay okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, we are now coming up on 12, 15 my time, uh the the first podcast I did on day one. It was the only podcast I managed to do on the on the whole time.

Speaker 2:

Um, I don't think I finished that till like 3 30 and I was up, I had to be at the breakfast at eight, and so we did it the one day and that was it was like, okay, this is going to be impossible to do this, uh, so at some point I I do want to go over some of the clips and videos and things that I saw, people that I got to meet, um, and it's uh just the sheer pomp and circumstances of it. Like I said, we had great seats. What was it? On night three, every time somebody would walk off the stage. I was in the background, wow. So I have pictures of Bill Clinton walking off with me sitting there. I ended up dancing crazily to let's Go Crazy on night three and getting on national television dancing in the aisle in my pink dress, with my pink blazer and my Barbie pink belt, and then I accidentally photobombed the ohio delegations. Uh.

Speaker 2:

Announcement of their votes uh, you're like, I'm also representing oh, it was funny, I, because as soon as we got done I had to go to the bathroom really bad. So I ran up and then, when I went to come back down to my seat, they say you can't come in this way, it's closed off. You have to go up two levels and then walk down to the floor and come back out. And I'm like, ok. And so I have me, our national committee woman, another one of our delegates. We're walking down and we start walking down the staircase and we get down near towards the bottom and they're like no, no you got to wait, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2:

We get down near towards the bottom and they're like no, no, you've got to wait, hold on, hold on. And the next thing I know the lights are coming on and they're going, oh hello.

Speaker 1:

Hello to you both.

Speaker 2:

And I'm sitting there going. I'm like five steps up from one of the chairs who's making the announcement and I'm going, yay. And so I had a friend who texted me. She goes I just saw you on television. What the hell are you doing with Ohio?

Speaker 1:

You're like actually I've been doing some groundwork for trans people there. I've moved to another state, I've just bought another.

Speaker 2:

I just switched my delegate status you.

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