Celebrity Scrutiny, Kamala vs. Trump, and Trans Political Advocacy

Could respecting personal boundaries be the key to healing our society's wounds?" 

This clip episode challenges the relentless scrutiny of public figures like Justin Bieber, urging us to respect personal space, especially when they might be grappling with private trauma. Our discussion then pivots to the political showdown between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, highlighting Kamala's powerful critique of Trump's numerous felony convictions and his contentious remarks about Haitian immigrants. 

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Chapters

• 0:00 Discussion on Political and Social Issues
• 7:24 Trans Rights and Political Nuance

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

But I think, until Justin Bieber actually initially comes out, we should respect that space for him. I agree Because, as someone who's definitely felt what it's like to be a survivor of male essay, there's a different layer that comes with it. There's a different layer of shame that comes with being a male survivor of essay. And if you're not ready to come out which even in my situation, I was kind of forced out like I didn't even really want to talk about my situation, but it ended up kind of happening in the way that it did and I'm glad in the long run that it did because we got some laws change, but still I wasn't fully ready for that to come out and I wish I had a little bit more time and I think that we should give Justin some grace in that space and not make these speculative videos until he's ready to come out, if it did happen to him.

Speaker 1: 0:51

So you know, leave Justin Bieber alone for real, like leave him alone. You don't know what happened. We can speculate all darn day, but I think if he has been through what he's been through and he survived it and he's still got a beautiful voice and still like he protects Billie Eilish, like there's a whole layer to him, but I just think that it's important for us to send that message, because you could be destroying his mental health further and we don't want to push him down a road that he doesn't need to be on.

Speaker 2: 1:17

Yeah, I agree. That's a wonderful message and that's a good segue into what's next. I'm excited about this. Let's talk about the presidential debate for Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.

Speaker 1: 1:29

Oh my God, Can we? Solomon, can you get that balloon popping ad up? When you get a chance and let me know when it's ready. Oh, Shay came really prepared. Oh, I came very prepared because it's the Kamala Harris balloon popping ad that just came out. It's the kamala harris balloon popping ad that just came out. Now we have to acknowledge kamala's hq, who has taken over the social media. Listen, I am actually proud of the democrats.

Speaker 1: 1:56

I am so proud of them actually understanding that we can't create this like softball pitches anymore because, we're actually truly losing our rights and we can't sit here and debate Nazis and somehow like make the situation that somehow it equates to each other, to equal rights, and making this casual conversations at a very serious, serious thing. So what do you think about all this?

Speaker 2: 2:19

I have a lot to say. First of all, Kamala Harris is my birthday twin. We have the same birthday, by the way. I just want to make that very clear my dad has the same birthday as president obama, so oh, royalty in the family okay and my mom has the same birthday as marsha p johnson. Damn yeah, I don't think I ever told you that, yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2: 2:35

Yeah, absolutely okay. Here's the thing I have a lot to say about this. Um, you know I want to talk about. I'm going to talk about what happened, what we saw on television, and then I'm going to talk about the trans experience around it, because I have a lot to say about that too. Now, I watched that debate. I sat there, watched it twice. Actually, I think kamala harris did a wonderful job. I think donald trump could not take her, could not handle her. I thought the funniest thing that he said was they're eating the pets. They're coming into this country. Biden and Kamala are letting them come in. They're eating the dogs.

Speaker 1: 3:11

They're eating the pets sound like somebody remixed it and be like they're eating the pets.

Speaker 2: 3:19

It was so funny, but the thing is they were um.

Speaker 1: 3:21

He was referring to Haitians yes, legal Haitians citizens, americans, let's actually be right. American citizens. Yes, that's who he's referring to yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 3:33

And I think Kamala brought up like a lot of things. She talked about the things that Donald Trump did not get passed. She talked about his criminal record. Let's be clear he has 34 felony convictions with assaults attached to that.

Speaker 2: 3:45

Exactly and this is no disrespect to anybody who is a convicted felon who has been rehabilitated. I want to make that very clear because I think sometimes, you know, when we talk about Donald Trump's convictions or whatnot, it's almost like we're throwing a jab at people who have been convicted felons. You know what I mean. They they've done their crime, they've done their time and they're out being better people. I think sometimes for them, it feels like a jab at them when we talk about that, and so that's why I always want to be a little bit more distinguished when I say we're not talking about rehabilitated like people who have experienced that.

Speaker 1: 4:21

We're not talking about that morrison who have experienced remorse and have done the work and the community service behind it. Of course not Exactly.

Speaker 2: 4:27

Exactly, and there were just there were a lot of cool points there. It was pretty funny to me, to be quite honest with you, I think. For me, the part about abortion is something that's really big for me. You know, in the debate that I just participated in, some of y'all I'm sure a lot of y'all saw the importance of including non-binary people as well as trans men in a conversation around reproductive rights, because that's a very nuanced conversation. Because that's a very nuanced conversation, and just because you include non-binary people and trans masculine people or anyone who is able to give birth in a conversation, it doesn't mean we're erasing cis women out of that conversation.

Speaker 1: 5:11

We're just adding more people to the conversation. I never understood.

Speaker 2: 5:14

We're not taking anything away, we're just adding more conversation, more words more descriptions, pulling more seats to the table so we can have the discussion, but of course, in mainstream politics, cis women are going to always be named first, and I just want to encourage liberals especially to just be more inclusive, because there are more groups of people that this affects, and I just think that Donald Trump was just saying that you know they're supporting abortion in the ninth month, which is ridiculous. I think that is so, or?

Speaker 1: 5:43

after like because he's able to radicalize his base behind that exactly behind false allegations of how abortion when what's really happening is like what happened in texas, where the woman she needed health care. She needed to get that removed properly because she did take the medication. I believe it was plan B and it didn't go out, didn't turn out right.

Speaker 2: 6:08

She basically had a complication.

Speaker 1: 6:10

Parts were still in her and because she didn't have access to healthcare, she went septic and died, which is a procedure that could have been an hour, maybe two hours. The doctors go in and clean up her situation so that she could actually function, live, and now she's no longer with us just because of these draconian trump laws yes, that were placed in by our supreme court.

Speaker 2: 6:35

It is these laws that are being put in place that is harming a lot of these women. It's like you have to go hundreds and hundreds of miles away to go to a place where doctors won't be arrested for giving that kind of care. You know what I mean, and women's lives are at stake and I love that that's been common. Let's talk about it, because there was a town hall she did with Oprah Winfrey and I think the family of that girl actually was there, and that was the first time I heard that story. And I also heard a story I can't think of her name Cute white woman Talked about being a survivor. I think she's a survivor of RAPE. I think it was her father, the father or stepfather, and she was 12 and pregnant. Yes, had to carry.

Speaker 2: 7:15

Her story was so, so powerful. I encourage y'all to go look at that town hall, because it brought tears to my eyes and it just really got me thinking. Now there's another part of this I want to talk about, and that's with the trans community, because a lot of my trans siblings are not going to like what I have to say and you know it's shocking oh, let's turn the mic up, let's make sure you give them a good clip viral so they can find it.

Speaker 1: 7:41

Jeez Y'all, we have not.

Speaker 2: 7:43

Okay, let's make sure you give them a good clip viral so they can find it. Okay, that's our button there it is.

Speaker 1: 7:50

It's three at the top, all right at the top.

Speaker 2: 7:51

We got you all right. So here's the thing. When it comes to trans people, it's a very nuanced conversation, because our rights are on the line regardless and and it is important for we, as trans and non-binary folks, to show up at the polls Now. I understand Kamala has a painful history with the trans community especially here in California.

Speaker 1: 8:13

I'm not going to dismiss that at all. She even kind of avoided a conversation just a few days ago when she was asked. So she was very indirect when they asked was it the interview with the woman?

Speaker 2: 8:23

yeah and see, I disagree with that. I'm the one I disagree with that, because the thing is number one kamala does not live the trans experience.

Speaker 1: 8:32

Number one, I think she's trying to play it smart politically and I agree, get it yeah, get it, but it hurt to see it that way. Yeah, you know, to see it framed that way, to pull pull back support. It felt like a little bit, but she also didn't actually pull back support. It's almost like she used her law degree to speak in law speak.

Speaker 2: 8:50

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:51

Like she wasn't speaking in the common man in that moment. You.