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Small Business Struggles, Trump’s Legacy, and California's Economic Dilemmas

Shelbe Chang, Thomas Barnes

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California's economic landscape is shifting dramatically as rising crime, costly policies, and political changes reshape the lives and livelihoods of its residents. 

Business owners are particularly affected, struggling to adapt to pressures that seem insurmountable, raising critical questions about governmental roles and adaptability in an evolving marketplace. 


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Speaker 1:

Different city comes by and pushes them out of there. They got to go somewhere else because, no, we got to do maintenance.

Speaker 2:

We got to clean.

Speaker 1:

We got to do this, we got to do that. The only difference is now business owners can't be like hey, get the fuck out from in front of my school.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a lot of business already closed and we have very high crime. That's the issue. This is the issue, not gender identity. You know, it was never an issue.

Speaker 1:

The whole crime issue. That really pisses me off. All the people that got behind that. That really pisses me off. They made some decisions that I was like whoa, there's a million ways you could have addressed that. That would have cost less.

Speaker 2:

And on top of that, if you talk about costing less, our California gas price is the highest in the nation. How about that, see? And then they raised the people. I mean, I'm not putting anybody down, okay, but they raised the minimum wage for the fast food. At the same time, they raised everybody's hamburger price. That's just reality, and you know this is an issue.

Speaker 1:

Here's the trade-off with that. The only fast food joints they hurt were the small chains and the mom and pops ones. Those are the ones that really hurt because they live month to month. Yes, the big chains, which is ones they were trying to affect, like McDonald's and Burger King, they ain't hurting them because the vast majority of them are franchises. At the end of the day, that franchise is still going to send all the money it's supposed to back to headquarters. All they did was make it less money that the franchisee owner gets to take home in their pocket.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, actually I believe. In the entire America small business owners percentage is higher than the you know corporation or franchising yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's why they did that, because they want to kill the small business owners. They put the bill for paying that stuff out on the small business owners because they're going to figure out the small business owners will figure out how to navigate that, how to bring stuff up to speed In the big franchise all they got to do is follow the train.

Speaker 1:

All the successful small businesses that make it work. The big companies will be like, okay, now how are they making that work? Alright, 10 years, we'll follow that train. Be business as usual. You better worry about it see, I just don't get.

Speaker 2:

I just don't understand what's wrong with Gavin Newsom. I think he has some control issue because remember back in, just not too long ago, right before COVID, he put out a mandate for we cannot use plastic straw anymore. Remember that we're using paper straw.

Speaker 1:

And then funny thing is, yeah, but you gotta remember Gavin Newsom is pandering, listen to me first.

Speaker 2:

But if you go to Starbucks or Boba place, the cup they use, which is gigantic, is plastic, you see. So I don't know. That's why I say he has some sort of I don't know what's wrong with his mind. To be honest with you, he has no sense of what's important and what's wrong in his mind. To be honest with you, he has no sense of what's important and what's not.

Speaker 1:

In my opinion, he's trying to push. In my opinion, what he's trying to do is and his followers aren't trying to do this but he's trying to do it because he knows that if he pushes it, california is you can't deny it For the next 20, it California is. You can't deny it For the next 20 years, california is still going to be in the top five GDP of countries.

Speaker 2:

I know I think it's falling. To be honest with you.

Speaker 1:

We're falling a little bit, but we're still. It's still so many people and so many businesses. But with you, no, we're falling a little bit, but we're still. It's still so many people and so many businesses. But if you?

Speaker 2:

yes, but if you look at, let's say, five years from now, I really think it's. Maybe it doesn't take five years. I'll give it two years at the most if they didn't fix it. Because everybody is leaving, you know.

Speaker 1:

A lot of people are leaving, but you know it's like everything when you say everybody's leaving. The ones who really leave in the first 10 years are the ones who could afford to leave to begin with, all the ones who couldn't afford to leave they got to hang around and figure out how to make this work. There's a lot of those people, and this is how you get innovation. You put the people in a position where they have to come up with a better plan. You have to have a reason to have a better plan.

Speaker 2:

That's more than just what you want, true, but this is how do I put it this way? Yeah, I think a lot of people are just it's not about, you know, like, try to resolve it just sickening. You know what I mean? Like, like, it's kind of like one after another one. Now they, you know, they, they even landlords, whoever rent out the house, they put a cap on it. I, you know, I understand, you know, renter need some brief room as well, but I really feel this is again down to government overreach. This is, let's say, your landlord, I'm a renter, it's a negotiation between you and I. What I have to do with the government. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

That's why, yeah, and a lot of people say, oh, they did it to protect their people. No, they did that to protect you, the landlord, because if I put a cap on it now, you're not getting greedy and just running away with the market. Because now you're going to always be able to find somebody who can afford at least that much. If I don't put a cap on it and you follow the market. What's going to happen when the market collapses?

Speaker 2:

on you. Here's the thing. Let's say I mean, you know, just give an example, a lot of places, I believe, is three to five percent cap rental control, but our inflation is. You know, that's what I mean, that's what I mean. So so what I'm trying, so what I'm trying to say is, you know, landlord has expense, just like every other business.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, no, no, so that's why you're absolutely correct the landlord does have expenses, like everybody so the expense will have to just like the, just like the hamburger fast food chain. The expense has to go down to the consumer.

Speaker 1:

Yes, but it's a give and take. You can pass it down to the consumer until the consumer no longer is interested in consuming, and at that point you got to yeah, you're going to either have to bail or you're going to roll it back.

Speaker 2:

They will have a choice to leave.

Speaker 1:

And hopefully you can survive until the markets balance out again. And that's one of the main reasons why I'm trying to get stuff going right now, because I literally see so much opportunity over the next 10 years like it is gonna be ridiculous, in my personal opinion okay, cool, so next we're gonna where's where's.

Speaker 2:

You have a timeline? Where should we go now?

Speaker 1:

oh, we jumped to the right go ahead oh we, we took a good tangent, but I like that, uh, the tangent. That was really good because it means we're not just solely focused on one thing is do we've come up to well? I think that timeline we can go ahead and start talking about biden's uh yeah, stepping out yeah, that's where we are right now as far as the major things people are interested in discussing. Unless you want to talk about.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we can kind of share this part, and then Kamala Harris and yeah, and then we can close out, we can wrap out, and then the next week we'll see what's going on yeah, so so Biden, so Biden, biden. I don't know. I see this coming. Actually, I saw this coming two, three years ago when he first got elected. I was saying I was commenting one of my friends post. I say you wait and see. When they finish using him, they'll kick him out to the curb and that's what they're doing that's what they're doing.

Speaker 2:

That's what they did just now.

Speaker 1:

He was Biden got lucky man. He was a real safe bet supporting Obama. He was a controllable bet supporting Obama. So you know he's not JD Vance, let's put it like that when he was VP for Obama and he showed himself nationally to be really level-headed and not a fire spark, not prone to just blowing up or doing something crazy, and then that led to a lot of people being comfortable with him. When he ran for the presidency and he banked off of it.

Speaker 1:

Good kudos to you, my man. You made it at the last bit of the race. Kudos to you. He entered the club. He entered the presidency club. Not going to take that from him Now. That's why I don't take it from Donald Trump either. He won the votes of millions of people. You know how hard that is. I got a freaking YouTube channel that I get like I'm happy if I get 10 views on a video. You know what I'm saying. He got millions of people to get up off their butt, go to another location out of their house, price up, down, down in his favor so you don't, so you don't think it has.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I don't. I mean back in 2020? There's a lot of talk about the vote counts. It's not accurate anyways. The vote counts. It's not accurate, anyways. My opinion is somehow there's something happened. That's my personal belief. Oh yeah, yeah, and COVID did play a lot into that mix.

Speaker 1:

I'm not going to say there wasn't no palm foolery going on, but there is a saying If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying to win, and you only cheating when you get caught.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so this time around. So he dropped out, and then now we have this come up, yeah.

Speaker 1:

The other thing I didn't like was they brought in a lot of foreign influence at that time and that's going to be a contentious thing. That's going to like I know one of a lot of people in our government are all about this global economy thing. Monetary support is going to wind up, turn around, no matter who it is being involved. It's going to turn around and become a really contentious power kid.

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