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Are We on the Right Side of History? A Deep Dive into Gender Identity Politics

Shelbe Chang, Thomas Barnes

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This clip episode explores the urgent topics of national security and shifting gender identity narratives that are shaping political discourse today. 

Our discussions navigate the serious implications of recent executive orders and the societal pushback surrounding them.



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Speaker 1:

I looked at all the, I read through all the statement blurbs on the executive orders he put out and I'm going to be honest, two things came, two things jumped out at me after going through all the ones that were put out so far. They are. They are supremely serious about the border issue.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

They're extremely serious about the border issue and national security and how it's been handled and mishandled. They're extremely serious about the border issue. That is not going away, it's just going to get. It's going to get the border is going to get a great deal more military presence and oversight. And they're extremely serious about the fallout from the woke issues that sprung up over the last six years. They're really serious about taking a position on that because they've felt attacked and they're pushing back. You're not going to change it. The best thing you can do is figure out how to work within the new framework that's coming down the line. There's going to be a lot of prying and fallout from it, there's no doubt, because what has been is no longer. No doubt because what has been is no longer. I don't see where they targeted transgenders specifically to hurt them, but I do see what they've done, and that's to curtail the gender-affirming care for minors.

Speaker 1:

Yes, as long as you're 19 and over, do whatever the hell you want, except for you, it's bad.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so this is what my personal take is. He said Americans are only going to recognize men and women. That's what he said in the operation.

Speaker 1:

Yeah it's sad, but it's not something that almost every other country in the world has already done. You know there's a clear definition with that almost worldwide, legally, legally. So it's not something that's new. It's just something we've never taken. It's just something the country's never taken a stance on, and they did because a lot, of, a lot of gender identity advocates push, using the law to force people to adhere, and it's going to come back next presidential election. It's going to come back. You're probably going to see it for the next 10 presidential elections, back and forth.

Speaker 2:

It's going to come back. You're probably going to see it for the next 10 presidential elections, back and forth.

Speaker 1:

It's going to come back. He gets a lot of Biden stuff, so the next president can do the exact same thing.

Speaker 2:

My take is what you said. Partially, I agree, it's like. I feel it's like finally, I feel you know, I feel it's like finally we can put this issue. You know if it's an issue to rest, because four years ago we're not even nobody cares, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, before this election.

Speaker 2:

It's only 1%.

Speaker 1:

Before this election nobody really gave a shit.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 2:

I mean because the last four years, like you said, it's been push, push, push. And I do see a pattern on the left. I just had a friend I mean a colleague, a film colleague he messaged me because he saw my post on the USAID We'll talk about that later but he saw my post on X for the USAID and he said he's disappointed in me and he said I have a lot of respect from you. See, so I do see a pattern because and I replied I respect everybody's point of view, everybody's view and opinions. And see, like you know, definitely this person is more left-wingers. So I just see, like when you, they don't want to hear you, they just want to push, you know, their point of view onto you and if you don't follow, we're not friends anymore. So you know what I mean. So it kind of what. You just can you hear me with this new, with your earphone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I hear you good with these on, can you hear me? Yes, I hear you good with these on, can you hear me?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I can hear you, but it becomes very echo-ish.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it's echo-ish.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, and also I want to share this, if I can. Let me see. Earlier I tried to share but I couldn't, so let me see if I can share this one now. Can you see? Okay, yeah, it's on the screen. So this one, this post, I from my friend, and then I respond because I mentioned Trump is a business person, right? So I say he's a businessman, so everything to him is negotiation strategy and skills, negotiation strategy and skills.

Speaker 2:

Perhaps trans people might dissolve the difference by going in with this approach. Instead of fighting for it, you know, fighting against it. And I get a backslash. If you guys can read, this is pretty long. I didn't really finish the whole comment. I already understand this person, what she's trying to do, okay, she's trying to point it out, and nothing wrong with that, okay. And the only part that I don't agree is she became very personal attack, as you can see, towards the end, right. So this is what I response.

Speaker 2:

Jenny, you are so good at identifying and focusing on all the problems that you can find. So what's your solution? And I say, crying, playing like a victim or personal attacking Annie and I is not going to solve anything. You just create more problems for you to complain about. And that's her reality. Because, you know, I was actually kind of, you know, offering a possibility solution right here. You know if anyone who can talk to Trump or near Trump, maybe they can negotiate.

Speaker 2:

Because, again, I do see a pattern, because remember, four years ago, facebook Ben-A-Him, twitter, ben-a-him Elon Musk wasn't supporting him and now you see he's all friends with them now, right, so he, he is not really black and white set in stone, it's flexible. It's just depending how you approach him. You know what I mean and, of course, nobody want to be be human. You know what I mean and, of course, nobody wanted to be, be human. You know, be disrespectful, but you know. So this is what I feel that about towards the trans people, and I really feel, you know, it didn't change me, it didn't change my life, it didn't affect my life. I'm still doing my things. I'm still doing my things. I'm still doing my business and actually my business got better since, um, he's, he got elected. So, yeah, all right. So, uh, what else do you have? What's your thought on this one, because I kind of jump in right into it.

Speaker 2:

So what do you think?

Speaker 1:

On that one, I mean, I totally agree. These are issues that, in my opinion, all issues transformed. You should have got involved in with the negotiations and the wording, the concepts and the beliefs from the very beginning and not let somebody else narrate what it was. One and then two, totally devoid the conversation from feelings and adopt a mindset of perspective versus perception.

Speaker 2:

You know true, yes.

Speaker 1:

Because, on one hand, you have perception. That's how. That's all about. How you feel, what you think. Yeah, perspective involves how they feel what they think and they never.

Speaker 1:

And you know you really want to. This is a big issue, a big deal. You should have been involved. Instead, you let somebody else direct the narrative on what they thought it should be. And they've asked.

Speaker 1:

I remember when we were talking about the elections yes, harris ran on feeling. She ran on perception. Yeah, trump ran on perspective, yes, of what everybody else was feeling and what they were thinking according to what was being told to them. It happens all the time, you know, and a lot of times it's hard to get out of that, that box when you get in it, because you know emotions run high and you want to be heard. Everybody wants to be heard.

Speaker 1:

If you're not paying attention to what the people you want to be heard, you want to hear you are telling you that they're hearing. You know you're failing and you're going to. You're going to lose out on the whole situation because your response, it was your responsibility to make sure they were understanding what you were trying to say. You're the one who want to say it, but you have to make sure that they really understand what you were trying to say. You're the one who want to say it, but you have to make sure they're they really understand what you're trying to say, not, you know, trying to force them to just accept it.

Speaker 2:

So it's, it's it's going to.

Speaker 1:

We're going to see it pop up again. And as far as and, then the, the, the, the, the kind lady sent you Response. Yeah, Her response is a classic example of perception versus perspective.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah, you know I read it. It was blatant in the first couple of lines. You know there's a million problems going on, and what? You're going to see is a lot of. We're going to see a lot of changes over the next couple of years. You see, how that works out. If you're not moving to be involved with it.

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